The 44-40 that could.. for Bigredd, & Darryldb

John Y Cannuck

RichPoorMan<br>Super Moderator
Moderating Team
Rating - 100%
15   0   0
This story starts off many years ago, when I traded off an old black powder rifle, for a '92 Winchester in 38-40.
Well, parts of one anyways.
I completed the rifle, through much trading, and scrounging.
I damned near blew myself up with a major reloading booboo. I managed to ring the chamber of the rifle quite badly, without damaging the receiver, or myself.
I scoured the country for a barrel, preferably in 44-40. I wanted to hunt with it.
I finally got one through a fellow gunnut, {tiriaq} and, although it was a model 94 barrel, it fit very nicely.
The old barrel in 38-40 just wasn't much of a shooter, even before I wrecked it.
The new barrel was no better.
Early on, I visited Bigredd's range, and DarrylDB watched as the little rifle, fired from a rest, managed 12" groups at 25 yards!
I was sick, but, I was also determined. I've leaned a lot about accurizing '94 Winchesters over the years, and applied this to the '92. I also, consumed vast quantities of lead casting various designs of bullets. I tried a gazzilion powders, at various velocities.
After a few years, I noticed the groups begin to shrink. I got them down to four inches at 50 yards.
Not great, but, if shots are kept within those bounds, not too bad for an 'underpowered' rifle.
I took a nice 100lb doe that season with it, at 50 feet distant. The shot going clean through, and the doe dropping in two bounds, with a couple of kicks.
I continued to work on the rifle.
The size of jacketted bullets for the 44-40, mine anyways, must be close to .427. If it's much larger, they won't chamber.
Now as most 44's are sized for the 44 mag at .430, we have an issue.
I used Winchester bulk .427's at first, and they are not too bad, but I wanted better.
On impulse, I tumble lubed a bunch of Hornady 200 grain .430 bullets with Lee case lube, and ran them through my Lee .427 sizing die. They swelled back to .4275. Looked great, and...
513812.jpg

Shoot great too!
 
Last edited:
Nice shooting JYC! I hope to get a '92 some day, they are real nice.


I might give this a try with the 41 Swiss I just aquired which has a .431" barrel. I haven't shot it yet and am really excited to try it.

What velocity did you get with yours?

Noel
 
Noel - Lee makes a 330 gr gascheck bullet for .44 Mag. As cast, they are just right for my Swiss. You need a longer than average .44 bullet if the rounds are to feed through the magazine.
 
WRT velocities.
I found that my rifle will not shoot well at velocities much over 1300 fps.
The doe I shot, was taken at 900 fps muzzle velocity.
The '92 is a very strong action, and over the testing I achieved velocities as high as 2000fps with 200 grain bullets.
Accuracy was always the goal, but power for hunting was always in the back of my mind.
Shooting the doe with a 900fps bullet that sailed right through, and dropped her quickly, resolved a lot of those power issues.
 
Wow... that is outstanding J/C... I woulda bet differently when I first saw that rifle shoot! You should be bringing it Bear Hunting with Toomer and I next week! I guess I know what your gonna be hunting with in November.:cool:
 
Damm, John I've got a 1/2 button mag SRC in 44 with good rifling :eek:, lightest little thing you ever did see :D, now it'll want to go hunting too!!


Ive just picked up one of these too, a nice little M92 that turned a 100 years young this year. The guy I bought it from said he took three moose with it:eek:
 
Noel - Lee makes a 330 gr gascheck bullet for .44 Mag. As cast, they are just right for my Swiss. You need a longer than average .44 bullet if the rounds are to feed through the magazine.

I was looking at that one too but was thinking maybe the gas check wasn't needed as I will be going only up to 1400 IIRC in the Swiss with the 310gr
It has a fat metplat(sp)so it should hit nice and hard.

Don't want to curb the thread chatting about my gun tho. I was curious to hear how compareable it is to a 44-40.

What are the wound channels like with cast as compared to jacketed?

Noel
 
That rifle made me shake my head in disbelief... no matter what it was fed, it was all over the place... More like a buckshot pattern at 25 yards
It was a powder puff to shoot, and had it hit close to where he/ I was aiming, it would have been a dandy to shoot.
Its good to see your much much much more patient than I. I guess that comes with age :):):)

Glad to see its working out BOB. On a sidenote, you were shooting those Experimental bullets in the 303, How did the "Magic" bullets end up working out?
 
on the 303's
Steve Regwell's magic bullets are indeed very accurate.
Tiny groups from old war horse rifles. Absolutely amazing. He has a variety of bullet diameters available for the 303, so, slug your bore. Some (damned few) are tight, many are very very loose, and he has bullets up to .3135.
303british.com is his hang out if you want some.
Tell him I sent you.
 
on the 303's
Steve Regwell's magic bullets are indeed very accurate.
Tiny groups from old war horse rifles. Absolutely amazing. He has a variety of bullet diameters available for the 303, so, slug your bore. Some (damned few) are tight, many are very very loose, and he has bullets up to .3135.
303british.com is his hang out if you want some.
Tell him I sent you.

Will they work in a Lee Metford?
 
Back
Top Bottom