The Air Force is arming pilots with this longer-range, stand-off rifle to use if they

Reading the comments on this thread, I'm curious if anyone sharing an opinion about what the best carbine is for this scenario, has any actual combat experience/ex military?
 
patriot1 said:
Reading the comments on this thread, I'm curious if anyone sharing an opinion about what the best carbine is for this scenario, has any actual combat experience/ex military?
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Yes and still serving.

A 10.5" barrel 5.56 rifle with some kind of CCS stock (obviously not made by NEA/BCL)
 
How many pilots get shutdown behind enemy lines yearly?
How many get rescued?
How long does it take to rescue team to get there?

Is this an actually problem or is it a knee jerk reaction to two Russian pilots killed in Syria?
 
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DT741 said:
Yes and still serving.

A 10.5" barrel 5.56 rifle with some kind of CCS stock (obviously not made by NEA/BCL)
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Hmmm or a 9 inch 300blk. This seems one of the applications where a short 300blackout carbine like the sig mcx with that collapsing stock and 9 inch barrel would excel in.
 
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GreenBob said:
How many pilots get shutdown behind enemy lines yearly?
How many get rescued?
How long does it take to rescue team to get there?

Is this an actually problem or is it a knee jerk reaction to two Russian pilots killed in Syria?
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Safety blanket. Better to have and not need, than need and not have.
 
GreenBob said:
How many pilots get shutdown behind enemy lines yearly?
How many get rescued?
How long does it take to rescue team to get there?

Is this an actually problem or is it a knee jerk reaction to two Russian pilots killed in Syria?
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The Americans have more experience with pilots being shot down being enemy lines than anyone else in the world at this time, if the USAF thinks the pilots need firepower I'd not question it based on my lack of SERE and access lessons learned reports.

Maybe it's for the morale of their pilots, I know I'd want a fighting chance if I was isolated behind enemy lines with CSAR likely inbound in the next few hours.
 
greentips said:
This thing makes me cringe.

I would rather have a HK MP7 ready to rock with more magazines, over putting stuff together after surviving an ejection and possibly having injuries already.

The only reason they are going this way seems to be a ploy to get around an open RFP and RFB process, so they can buy things right the way as a replacement/repair item of the GAU already in inventory.
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Have fun with that.
 
Canadian Sig said:
Tell that to some SEALs ;)
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Lol. Ok. And various other groups using it as a subgun as well?

Im sure they ditch their scar17 every chance they get for medium range engagements.

Anyway enough fantasy land nonsense. neat rifle and I wonder if this quick change barrel system is going to make it to commercial market any time.
 
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AFisher said:
Lol. Ok. And various other groups using it as a subgun as well?

Im sure they ditch their scar17 every chance they get for medium range engagements.

Anyway enough fantasy land nonsense. neat rifle and I wonder if this quick change barrel system is going to make it to commercial market any time.
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Actually, interesting side bar, the USSF elements I deployed with all refused to carry their scars. They had one hell of a seacan armory full of options on our little FOB and they almost all chose M4 over the scar platform.
 
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