The benefits of the "Noveske Pig" on a bullpup

pbr streetgang

pbr streetgang

CGN frequent flyer
EE Expired
Rating - 100%
35   0   0
Location
Vancouver
So I think I understand the fundamental purpose for this type of flash hider, but does it only benefit SBR's? The reason I ask is I'm thinking of trying one out on a Tavor bullpup, but I'm not certain if it will be advantageous in any way. The Tavor has an 18.5 inch barrel but the overall length of the rifle is only about 27 inches, so is it barrel length or overall length that the Noveske Pig will benefit?

Thanks in advance for any info
c8115b6a.jpg
 
Isn't the main goal of the pig to direct blast forward, away from the shooter and people on the sides? If so, it should do the same thing on a tavor, but not as noticeably as the blast isn't as obnoxious as a 10.5" or 7.5" sbr.
 
The biggest benefit I've seen from the KX3 is the reduced blast/concussion. Short rifles are cool but it felt like my teeth fillings were coming loose with my 11.5" The gun was always reliable so that didn't change.

If you find the blast from a bullpup obnoxious then you may like it, remember it does add a lot of weight to the front of the gun and will change the balance.
 
Large diameter muzzle devices are very good at directing blast forward and away from the shooter. This is their main benefit on a short barreled carbine.

Bullpups aren't SBR's, you don't need that pressure boost.
Click to expand...

The KX-3 cannot boost pressure. At best it "may" be able to increase the dwell time of the pressure curve but that is an unproven idea.

Even IF the KX-3 did increase dwell time, it would be a much smaller effect than a sound suppressor, which nobody would complain about if one were added to their rifle.
 
Get a real flash suppressor like Blackout or Vortex. I see no point of putting any muzzle brake or compensator on a 18.5" rifle.
 
CarbineOne said:
IMO, the KX-3's do next to nothing.
Click to expand...

Not as a flash suppressor but it works for what it was designed for... increase back pressure and improve cycling issues on afflicted shorty AR's.

CarbineOne said:
If the 18.5" gun is used as carbine, then you might want a brake. On an 18.5" 5.56mm precision platform, then no.
Click to expand...

Don't entirely agree with you here either with regards to a brake mounted on an AR for precision use.. I installed a Miculek style brake on my Delta HBar for testing purposes a few years ago. The brake enables you to see your target IMMEDIATELY following the shot.

There is next to no jump or bump from recoil when benched or rested. The need to activley re-acquire your target after the shot is almost completely eliminated. I found it to be a significant improvement if for no other reason than that alone so it still sits on my barrel today, many rounds later.

Mind you it does little to increase your friend count regarding those shooting on either side of you. :D

Just my $0.02

Regards,
 
Last edited:
CarbineOne said:
IMO, the KX-3's do next to nothing.


If the 18.5" gun is used as carbine, then you might want a brake. On an 18.5" 5.56mm precision platform, then no.
Click to expand...

You are going rearend backwards. you won't see a darn thing at low light when your muzzle pumps out a series of rounds without a proper FS. Afterwards your night vision is completely shot.

At least with a precision platform you can fire off faster followup shots using a muzzle brake when it is used as a DM platform. you are not going to fire a DM at night unless it comes with a thermo or NV optics so a FS is moot for most people.
 
Not arguing a muzzle brake isn't useful on many platforms. Nor am I arguing about 'necessity'.

Greentips; You are arguing that with shooting at night, with or without NV/thermals, without a can? There was no stated intended usage... the question was merely 'what'.

I would also argue that short bbl'd AR's that need a KX-3 to function are built wrong. They should not be required.
 
I agree with Carbine One that the KX3 shouldn't be needed for function if the rifle is built properly. Sometimes though, it may be more suitable (economical) to try the KX3 to "fix" an under-gassed rifle than to fix it by other means.
 
Shorty AR's with cycling issues are not necissarily built wrong. Sometimes it is an ammo issue. The increased back pressure created by using a device such as this helps.

That being said I would not buy a "built up" shorty AR from anyone other than a well known & experienced gunsmith or someone very knowledgeable with the AR platform. Based on my personal experiences I can say that a lot of the issues with franken guns can be attributed to the fact that the builder does not have enough understanding or knowledge of the platform. For example to the inexperienced builder a recoil buffer is a buffer is a buffer and many do not know what weight should accompnay what setup etc. Then they dump it on the EE or wherever and the indiscriminate buyer is stuck with a single shot AR and does not know why.

Regards,
 
7.5" AR is extremely dirty - I played with it before and I will never go back. It is a hobby item and I won't trust it as a tool.
 
The KX3 is a blast divertor to the front - at least you wont' annoy people and kick up a sand storm around you like some of the muzzle brakes, like the surefire one.

Seriously, if you like the look - go for it. Do you need it - NO. IMHO, no one needs muzzle brakes and compensators unless shooting professionally at 3 gun matches for money.
 
greentips said:
The KX3 is a blast divertor to the front - at least you wont' annoy people and kick up a sand storm around you like some of the muzzle brakes, like the surefire one.

Seriously, if you like the look - go for it. Do you need it - NO. IMHO, no one needs muzzle brakes and compensators unless shooting professionally at 3 gun matches for money.
Click to expand...
:agree:
So the only reason to put this type of muzzle device on a bulpup design would be to enjoy shooting this rifle with little or no ear protection when off the range.
phantastic said:
Personally, I like to use a muzzle device that makes the flash brighter and the sound louder... Just sayin

The PWS FSC556 is like watching fireworks :D
Click to expand...
F YA!
I wish that a company would make 1 of these device's.
That would :rockOn:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom