the best rifle firearm airguns legal for hunting
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idontknowjack
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Check your hunting regulations. I believe they just changed laws stating you can't hunt with an airgun that shoots less than 1000fps. in Quebec. Here in Ontario, we can hunt with a pistol so long as it's under 500fps. Makes sense to me.
rustysdream
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There is no answer to this in the 2010 Ontario Hunting Regulations so I called the Ministry this afternoon.
The first person (....) told me that both air rifle and air pistol are legal for hunting small game but "just in case" transferred my call to another person.
The second person said, that the list of firearms is in the Regulations, on page #22. I told her that I've already checked but air rifle was not mentioned on page #22. She said that turkey hunting is there and that's the same as small game. At that point I realized that I was talking to an absolutely clueless person so I asked her to transfer my call to an Ontario CO.
The CO was not at his desk, so I left a message with my phone number. I haven't received a call yet, so I'll wait a couple of more days and if they don't call me, I will follow up.
Ministry, eh?
The first person (....) told me that both air rifle and air pistol are legal for hunting small game but "just in case" transferred my call to another person.
The second person said, that the list of firearms is in the Regulations, on page #22. I told her that I've already checked but air rifle was not mentioned on page #22. She said that turkey hunting is there and that's the same as small game.
At that point I realized that I was talking to an absolutely clueless person so I asked her to transfer my call to an Ontario CO. The CO was not at his desk, so I left a message with my phone number. I haven't received a call yet, so I'll wait a couple of more days and if they don't call me, I will follow up.
Ministry, eh?
idontknowjack
CGN Regular
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- SW Ontario
Read pg.21, first paragraph under Firearms.
rustysdream
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Saskatchewan
Thank you.
You're right. It makes no sense that the MNR limits the velocity of air pistols but doesn't limit the velocity of air rifles.
I'm not complaining though. My air rifles and air pistols are legal to hunt with.
So, the first person I talked to was on the right track but still wasn't sure about the answer. They should know it better...
Thank you.
You're right. It makes no sense that the MNR limits the velocity of air pistols but doesn't limit the velocity of air rifles.
I'm not complaining though. My air rifles and air pistols are legal to hunt with.
So, the first person I talked to was on the right track but still wasn't sure about the answer. They should know it better...
An air gun shooting under 500fps is not considered a firearm under the firearms act. If you are using an air pistol that shoots faster then 500 fps then it is a fireams and now you are hunting with a restricted firearm and they can only be fired at approved ranges. A rifle faster than 500 fps is simply non restricted firearm.
You nailed it.
300shooter
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To answer the original question, I have a Diana 52 in .22 caliber that has dispatched many a grouse, rabbit, squirrel etc. Very well built airgun but a bit pricey for some, the 34 is also a good unit.
IMHO I'd stick with a .22 for hunting, I don't like tracking any more than I have to.
idontknowjack
CGN Regular
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- SW Ontario
Too bad it's only rated at 900fps. Can't use it in Quebec for small game, which is where the OP is from. 1000fps min. in Quebec.
Not worth the price for a .22 pellet gun that shoots over 1000fps. Might as well use a .22LR and be done with it.
idontknowjack
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- SW Ontario
Here is an option, but as I mentioned, a .22LR is way cheaper and more affective in the long run.
http://www.specialtyshootingsportso...y-includes-standard-condor-tank-/prod_64.html
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Thank you.
You're right. It makes no sense that the MNR limits the velocity of air pistols but doesn't limit the velocity of air rifles.
I'm not complaining though. My air rifles and air pistols are legal to hunt with.
So, the first person I talked to was on the right track but still wasn't sure about the answer. They should know it better...
Yes it does!
Anything over 500fps is cosidered a firearm. If your pistol is 500fps+ its consodered restricted and therfore you need an ATT.
You know theres an airrifle that can take down a deer too!
But you should get a .177 cal pistol bb or pellet. When ever you see gourse nearby just shoot like a crazy arab. Or if you wanna use a rifle, get a 22lr bullets are cheaper than pellets :O
But you should get a .177 cal pistol bb or pellet. When ever you see gourse nearby just shoot like a crazy arab. Or if you wanna use a rifle, get a 22lr bullets are cheaper than pellets :O
I dont want to sound bad or anything. But really? How can they know? If anything just say you replaced the spring and its 1000+ fps?
idontknowjack
CGN Regular
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- SW Ontario
If you get caught hunting with a gun that is not approved, you're looking at a hefty fine and or jail time. How will they know? All airguns have a velocity rating, they can look up what the gun is rated at in seconds. They have them on file for import. If you say you upped it to 1000fps, they will probably test it to see.
You know guns rated for 1000fps have a MAX fps of 1000.
I bet if you check the speed of the pellet it will be in the high 800s to mid 900s
idontknowjack
CGN Regular
- Location
- SW Ontario
True. That is what they will find when they look it up. It is rated at 1000fps. That's all they care. Make sense? Not to me because a .22 shooting 800fps has more energy downrange than a .177 shooting 1000fps. I don't make the laws, I follow them.
