The Crazy Go Nuts Mosin Nagant Thread

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I figure there isn't as much data out there about the Mosin as compared to the Kar 98k and the Enfield.

Even more so, I would say the general knowledge of the Lee Enfield and the Kar 98k would be much higher than that of the Mosin Nagant, in most cases.

So this is a thread of sorts, to help myself and others fill in the holes about Mosins.

For starters, what is worth more? The Hexagonal recievers or the round recievers?

I did some reading and I understand the hexagonal recievers were swapped out for round in 1936 I believe. Obviously it'd be worth a fair coin if you found a hexagon dated 1937 or later, but which style is worth more overall?

Also, is a firing pin calibration tool necessary at all? I don't see the point. If it fires, it fires, right?
 
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The ugly part makes it beautiful... and there is no rifle tougher than a Mosin. Even the vaunted Kar98 failed in the bitter cold, whereas the Mosin forged onwards tirelessly.

They are tough as nails, simple and reliable above all else. The Rooskies knew what they were doing. I love Mosins...
 
Steppenwolf said:
They soo ugly, IMHO, but I will say that my 91/30 is very accurate, but fugly.
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I'd agree, but I would add: They are ugly with the original wood.

With laminate wood, those 91/30's look dreamy. Because the wood is so long, the laminate REALLY comes through.

Yes, I have one in the mail as we speak. ;)

But in the meantime, maybe some questions or your own, or perhaps some answers to my questions?

How about, where does one go to get say, 10 stripper clips for a mosin? I'm looking for 10. Just 10.
 
Ugly?! god no! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I know, but what makes a rifle beautiful? I find the robust stoutness of an M44 extremely appealing, and some of the heavy barrelled finn models as nice as any K98, or even Lee Enfield(the most beautiful milsurp IMHO). And form follows function-I would bet my life on a mosin under any circumstances, something I can't honestly say about some of the other milsurps I've owned. Except for maybe during 1000 zombie charge...although that fixed bayo would sure be handy:D

Firing pin depth can be set by eye, no need for the tool...Remove and decock the bolt, and look at it from the side, the tip of the firing pin should be almost flush with the front of the rim around the outside of the boltface.
 
A ton of Mosin-Nagant data can be found on the Mosin-Nagant forum of Gunboards.com. If you want Russian romance get an Imperial era Mosin-Nagant. Mine is a Sestroyesk made in 1916, just one year before the arsenal was closed. Joe
 
I encourage all of you to visit MSC (see my sig line) and check out the Russia and Finland areas for some good Mosin #### ;)

So I guess my 1944 Tula M44 hex with receiver isn't run of the mill then?
 
Your '44 with the hex receiver is probably just a bitser put together by Mitchells Mausers. Bet its all freshly nice and shiney, just right for the discerning collector. Incidentally, is the receiver tang dated?
 
LOL tiriaq... ;)

Yes, the receiver is also tang dated Tula 44, but it's likely a scrubbed imperial era receiver. Alot of 1944 Tul Mosin production is based on battle-salvaged older receivers.
 
I shudder to think how much battle salvaged materiel there was by '44. Makes it a very interesting rifle.
 
There is more to it than just the receiver pattern. There are numerous variations with hex, low sidewall round, and high sidewall round receivers.
 
There's only ONE pattern of hex receiver. There are two main types of round receiver, low and high wall, with LOTS of sub-variations such as stepped, unstepped, machined, vs. broached, machined rear bridge vs. unmachined, etc.
 
Claven2 said:
There's only ONE pattern of hex receiver. There are two main types of round receiver, low and high wall, with LOTS of sub-variations such as stepped, unstepped, machined, vs. broached, machined rear bridge vs. unmachined, etc.
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Weird-O...:runaway:

Are you making that up?....how about a quick synopsis of those differences
 
Well, quick synopsis is like asking for a short summary of the creation and existance of the universe when you're talking about mosin's it seems.

http://7.62x54r.com/MosinID/MosinReceivers.htm

This should give you a glimpse of the world of mosin nagants. If you're feeling very adventerous, or like me and don't like studying, go through the rest of the site, it's most definitely worth it!
H Wally
 
Claven2 said:
There's only ONE pattern of hex receiver. There are two main types of round receiver, low and high wall, with LOTS of sub-variations such as stepped, unstepped, machined, vs. broached, machined rear bridge vs. unmachined, etc.
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Do you know what you just said?

You just said "Tom (that's me!), I want you to message me with pictures whenever you're thinking of buying a ruskie from now on."

I do too much studying for school to ever hope to cram that jargon in there.
Thanks buddy! :p
 
LOL... I can't type for an hour right now, so just go the the linkH Wally posted. Ted does a good job of summarizing the known sub-variants there. ;)
 
I read on an US SVD site that wolf was making affordable but decent 7.64/54
ammo for about half the price of commercial and was wondering if it has made it up here? It would be a nice change from either scrounging corrosive surplus
from eastern europe and paying 20$ a box. It was supposed to be a commercial version of the much discussed but seldom seen russian sniper ammo for the SVD.
A supply of good cheap(less expensive actually)ammo would make buying a mosin alot easier. Unless Wolf starts making similair 303 rounds.
 
Currently, Wolf does not have a proper importer to get their stuff in here.

And if they did, there would still be the problem that Berdan primed ammo cannot currently be imported into Canada. If someone wants to start a letter writing campaign, I'd help.
 
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