bjjzak
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Roger that!!
The day has finally arrived!!! Rem 870 DM
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Roger that!!
Suther
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- Fraser Valley
How does that make it legal? Whether or not the bolt is closed has nothing to do with how many rounds the mag holds. Is an AR mag that holds 6 rounds, but can't be locked in place with 6 legal? No, it's a prohibited device. Obviously that's not exactly the same, but it's the closest I can think of off the top of my head.
Again, I understand from a logical perspective that what you and gravel say makes sense, but laws are rarely written based on logic. The way I see it, if you're out hunting, and the CO asks to check your mag, as soon as he gets a 3rd round in it there could be consequences.
looks like typical Remington cheap.they copied Norinco,,LOL..says a lot about how Remington is desperate for sales,not to mention it's pretty fugly,and that mag is bound to get caught on everything,now if they made them like their old Wingmasters,now that would be a great shotgun,
rommelrommel
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Unless they have a drum I don’t think I’d go for this.
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- Southwest Saskatchewan
Who is the guy making these decisions at Remington? I thought this was some ugly conversion kit someone came up with , They are really free falling into oblivion .
MustangFrank
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- B.C.
You should consult with a C.O. If you're that concerned you can probably pin the mag for your personal piece of mind. No use trying to be the mag police for everyone else.
JayCarver
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- GP, Alberta
I don't think anyone serious about 3gun is using a mag fed pump...
Gatehouse
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- Pemberton BC
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If we assume that the magazine cannot be inserted into shotgun when the action is closed, it would comply with both these regulations.
(d) with a shotgun of any description capable of holding more than three shells unless the capacity of the gun has been reduced to three shells in the magazine and chamber combined, by means of the cutting off or the altering or plugging of the magazine with a one-piece metal, plastic or wood filler that cannot be removed unless the gun is disassembled; or
(h) with a pump, repeating or auto loading shotgun unless the magazine contains a plug that is incapable of removal except by disassembling the gun, and that makes the magazine incapable of holding more than 2 cartridges.
When the magazine is inserted you have a shotgun that will only hold 2 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber. The magazine attached to the firearm is incapable of holding more than 2 rounds in it.
Magazine in your pocket is not part of your shotgun.
Not even close to the same. Not relevent to this topic.
Personally, I wouldn't worry about it as it's clear that the shotgun cannot hold more than 3 rounds, but you could always limit the mag more if it makes you feel more secure.
If we assume that the magazine cannot be inserted into shotgun when the action is closed, it would comply with both these regulations.
(d) with a shotgun of any description capable of holding more than three shells unless the capacity of the gun has been reduced to three shells in the magazine and chamber combined, by means of the cutting off or the altering or plugging of the magazine with a one-piece metal, plastic or wood filler that cannot be removed unless the gun is disassembled; or
(h) with a pump, repeating or auto loading shotgun unless the magazine contains a plug that is incapable of removal except by disassembling the gun, and that makes the magazine incapable of holding more than 2 cartridges.
When the magazine is inserted you have a shotgun that will only hold 2 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber. The magazine attached to the firearm is incapable of holding more than 2 rounds in it.
Magazine in your pocket is not part of your shotgun.
Not even close to the same. Not relevent to this topic.
Personally, I wouldn't worry about it as it's clear that the shotgun cannot hold more than 3 rounds, but you could always limit the mag more if it makes you feel more secure.
Gatehouse
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- Pemberton BC
oddball_ted
CGN Regular
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- Calgary
I'm buying the base model to make just this. Cause they'll never be imported. Probably never.
FLYBYU44
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- Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
Sorry I am not usually negative about new guns, but this thing looks like an answer to a question nobody asked. I guess I just don't get it. It has a full mag tube (yes I know for the pump) and then a magazine added, so I take my 870 and add substantial weight to it, then it holds as much as a mag tube would anyway. On top of that, it is ugly as sin and I wouldn't want this huge mag hanging out the bottom when out in the woods. Plus it appears to be made like something I would bolt on in my garage, I really question how reliable it really is. I am glad some of you appreciate it, I know it isn't something I will ever own.
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- a sheet hole
I completely agree,remington is so far behind on the 8 ball on this it's almost a joke. If this would have came out 6+ years ago it would have been a game changer. However with the grizzly having been out forever and now with all the ar type shotguns (semi auto and detached mag) I just don't see where this will fit in. People will talk about remington quality but let's face it any modern 870 sucks balls the best thing about them is that parts are plentiful and their easy to work on and for the most part their a cheap gun to give to hunting buddies to use.
Max Owner
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Only thing that this is good for is quick reloads.
Or should rephrase as it’s only advantage.
Or should rephrase as it’s only advantage.
jparent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
In a country like Canada, where storing a shotgun with a loaded tube, would get you in a lot of trouble if used in a self defense situation, a viable, reliable mag fed shotgun makes a lot of sense. As it does for competitions, such a 3 gun.
As a field gun, it holds less appeal, for sure, but since there aren't any models with a 26" barrel threaded for chokes, i think Remington knows their target audience.
We all have been waiting for this for a long time, and that day has finally arrived.
The release of the Remington 870 DM (Detachable Magazine)
Some points:
- 2 yrs of testing - extremely reliable
- Mag well can be removed for cleaning
- Mags are steel with poly overmolding
- All 870 stocks are compatible
- Any 870 forends that don't overlap the receiver (magazine) are compatible
- 870 barrels are compatible
- New oversized action bar lock
- Mag is straight in and out but is friction fit and not designed as drop free
- Will not work as a conversion kit as it's a dedicated receiver.
- 3" Chambers
- Hunting model comes with a 3rnd and 6rnd magazine *The 3rnd mag will only load on an open bolt so it will not work trying 3+1 This works for our 3 shot hunting restrictions for waterfowl.
5 Types are being released:
81351 / 81350 870 DM Base (wood / synthetic)
81352 870 DM Magpul
81354 870 DM Predator
81360 870 DM Tactical
Here is some more information here
Will this be available for semi autos at a later date?
bigredchev
CGN Regular
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- BC
Does it feed 3 inch shells nicely? I've heard nothing but issues with 3 inch shells in most mag fed shotguns
Gravel Agency
Expired Industry Member
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- British Columbia
Can you beat wolverines price of 599.99 plus shipping and tax on the REM-81351 ?
oddball_ted
CGN Regular
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- Calgary
There's always the issue of how shells/hulls tend to deform over time if stored for awhile in loaded magazines. Looks are one thing, and this beast isn't pretty that's for sure, DA grizzlies look much more streamlined, but reliability of shells in long term storage in the mags will be a big concern.
rockport guy
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- Riverview NB
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