The Freedom Ordnance FX-9 OWNERS thread.
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Yes. Go back and read it again... slowly. Their is a time limit to register the purchase. 30 days.
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Bob
This is not what I'm asking about.
Specifically: I thought only AR rifles could have barrels under 16" and not be prohibited. If these are not AR rifles, how is it that they can be fitted with such short barrels?
Is my understanding just completely wrong or has something changed?
The 18.5" only applies to semi-auto centrefire guns, there are lots of centrefire short(er) barrelled long guns that are non-restricted. Think bolt, pump, break, lever action, straight pull etc.
The AR15 is Prohibited by name, not Restricted.
not sure what you're on about. There's plenty of rifles that have under 18.5" barrels that are/were restricted, like the restricted Bren 2's or the formerly restricted VZ58's for example. Pretty sure FRT's exist for the shorter barrel FX9's as well seeing as how complete 4.5" and 8" barrel FX9's were being sold by retailers as restricted rifles.
And as I've said, I have.
It says a rifle or shotgun with a barrel length less than 470mm is restriced and less than 457mm is prohibited.
So again, it begs the question: if the FX9 is a non-restricted firearm, how can people put such short barreled uppers on them without them becoming prohibited?
I know AR rifles are restriced by name and so can have any barrel length without becoming prohibited.
I'm not trying to be argumentative here. I honestly don't know how what you guys are saying reconciles with what I'm reading on the RCMP website and the Criminal Code. I'm also not sure where I'm getting a barrel less than 16" is prohibited from (since the website says 18" -- 457 mm)
I would just appreciate someone explaining this to me clearly, instead of people just telling me to read what I've already read several times. Yes and slowly too.
If you truly want, and just have to know, why not contact your Provincial CFO and get him/her to explain it to you. Then you will know for certain.
Just to add though if you own an upper that fits the FX 9 that is less than 18" (You can do the math for the metric equivalent), you have a time limit to register the Upper. The FX 9 with a an Upper with a barrel length of less than 18" would be a restricted firearm. I have a CX 4 Storm with a 16.5" barrel that is registered as a restricted firearm. It definitely is not a Prohibited Firearm. It is however under the OIC ban as are all CX 4 Storms no matter their barrel length. If you stare at the gun for more than 10 minutes it cause your heart to stop and your lungs will explode. If you wear sun glasses you can extend your "safe" period by another 10 minutes.
FYI read the current Firearms Act that is where you will find what you are looking for. Not sure why you reference the Criminal Code of Canada in this discussion.
Take Care
Bob
ps your reference to 16" being Prohibited may be from reading US law where the less than 16" becomes a Short Barreled firearm and subject to a Federal Stamp ie a fee. Not sure of the amount but $200US sticks in my brain. I believe the fee is a one time fee.
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Thanks for the explanation.
Yes, you're right! I believe I conflated the US short barrel rifle limit with our system. And thanks for reminding me that the CX4 storm came restricted with a 16" barrel, with some people converting them to non-restricted with an 18.6" barrel. It's making more sense now.
I do recall someone else saying that ARs can be any barrel length and they would never be considered prohibited regardless of barrel length since they are (were, prior to the OIC) restricted by name.
Something other rifles didn't have the benefit of. Perhaps that had to do with overall length.
Thanks for suffering through my questions
Ah OK I stand corrected. Frankly it is all a bunch of nonsense anyway. If y0ou search enough there is a video out there that shows a police officer giving a class in the US where he demonstrates the ease in which guns can be carried concealed. His prop managed to pull out of his clothing everything from a Derringer pistol to a 12 gauge shotgun and everything in between.
The Liberals with C68 tried to prohib as many handguns at the time as they could and settled on 4" which removed the Model 10 S&W 4" revolvers from restricted category. I have heard indirectly they were afraid to extend it to 5" guns for fear of raising a greater storm of resistance to what they were doing.
The only thing I can think of that involved Public Safety were/is the inclusion of rules for storage of firearms in the home. Since restrictions were put in place there have been far fewer children killed in their homes due to Daddy leaving his handgun, rifle or pistol in his closet, empty. Virtually all of our current and next version of keeping us all save in our homes is nothing more than political theatre at our expense.
Take Care
Bob
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Just pulled the trigger on a FX 9. FOC got me with an additional 5% off. I am going to keep this one stock with an added Spaec2 for an optic. My buddy Troy convinced me and my BIL says dead man's suits have no pockets.
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Bob
ps Just kidding on keeping it stock. :>)
Take Care
Bob
ps Just kidding on keeping it stock. :>)
