The Freedom Ordnance FX-9 OWNERS thread.

I must say WOW. took me 3 days to read through this whole thread (interrupted by kid and life of course haha) and there is a lot of great information here! some of you have done an amazing job documenting and testing different buffers/weights and hand loads, box ammo all kinds of stuff! THANK YOU!!! I had to take notes haha.

only question I have not seen an answer to (or maybe I did and don't understand correctly) is a fix for when the BHO lever is engaged and I tap the butt stock on the bench a few times it starts to walk off and then slams the bolt home.... I believe I could use a stiffer spring to keep more pressure on the block end if the BHO lever that contacts the bolt but then I run the risk up destroying that part and having it fail...

any ideas for this? other then closing the bolt when its sitting on the bench.... its a little freaky when it slams home by itself...
 
Covefrog said:
I must say WOW. took me 3 days to read through this whole thread (interrupted by kid and life of course haha) and there is a lot of great information here! some of you have done an amazing job documenting and testing different buffers/weights and hand loads, box ammo all kinds of stuff! THANK YOU!!! I had to take notes haha.

only question I have not seen an answer to (or maybe I did and don't understand correctly) is a fix for when the BHO lever is engaged and I tap the butt stock on the bench a few times it starts to walk off and then slams the bolt home.... I believe I could use a stiffer spring to keep more pressure on the block end if the BHO lever that contacts the bolt but then I run the risk up destroying that part and having it fail...

any ideas for this? other then closing the bolt when its sitting on the bench.... its a little freaky when it slams home by itself...
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Pretty startling isn’t it. That’s the one thing I dislike about the FX-9.

The easiest fix, though cost $$$: get a wider charging handle. I bought an upgraded charging handle made by nickk. It is a lot wider, so when FX-9 lays on the table, the BHO lever does not touch the surface of the table to release.
 
p3tah said:
Pretty startling isn’t it. That’s the one thing I dislike about the FX-9.

The easiest fix, though cost $$$: get a wider charging handle. I bought an upgraded charging handle made by nickk. It is a lot wider, so when FX-9 lays on the table, the BHO lever does not touch the surface of the table to release.
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yeah not ideal... maybe the gen 3 next year will be a little different so if the stock get bumped it won't release the BHOL? if there is a gen 3 haha

I checked out his thread seems the gen 2 are different then the original ones and he didn't make any gen 2 ones.... plus he doesn't seem to be answering pm's haha. must be busy with life.

maybe the spring that holds the BHOL closed so the bolt can move is to stiff... would a softer spring cause it to not "jump" as much when the gun is "smacked" around?
im no gun guru so just throwing ideas out haha.
 
Covefrog the reason for it coming off the bolt face so easy is because the bolt stop is not fully engaging the bolt. with my gun the bolt began to peen the bolt stop due to it just missing to rise high enough to catch the bolt. I am certain the issue is with the mags and the fact most Glock OEM mags I have used do not push up the lever high enough to cause the bolt catch to fully engage the bolt. The SHK 10/32 mags I own fully raise the bolt catch to engage the bolt while my Glock mags just don't. I should know sometime tomorrow whether my fix will cause the Glock mags to work properly. I should add I also have some other 10/32 Korean mags that don't engage the bolt stop properly as well. I should be able to post my results sometime tomorrow. I am dealing with Covid right now but feel better today and should be able to get out to the range tomorrow.

Take Care

Bob
 
Covefrog said:
only question I have not seen an answer to (or maybe I did and don't understand correctly) is a fix for when the BHO lever is engaged and I tap the butt stock on the bench a few times it starts to walk off and then slams the bolt home.... I believe I could use a stiffer spring to keep more pressure on the block end if the BHO lever that contacts the bolt but then I run the risk up destroying that part and having it fail...

any ideas for this? other then closing the bolt when its sitting on the bench.... its a little freaky when it slams home by itself...
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I have posted about this previously in another thread. The problem is not the magazine for the bolt closing by itself (since mine did it with no magazine in there and mine was so sensitive it would go off without even anything touching the gun while it was on the bench resting on a Caldwell bag). It was annoying enough that the last round bolt hold open stopped working on mine completely (this may be magazine related), but the bolt release going off by itself was extremely annoying.

What I did was send mine back to Wolverine for warranty repair. Since it was a limited lifetime warranty I thought why not.

Turns out that they had to do some "cleaning up" on how everything mates together. When I got my gun back last week I can tell that they did something as the bolt release button is now very ever so slightly canted to the left (I can see the mark where it was hitting the receiver previously when it was completely vertical). Unfortunately I wasn't able to make it to the range yesterday due to working insane hours Friday and Saturday and was just too tired to go anywhere. Will hopefully check it out Wednesday late afternoon at the club.

I don't believe the bolt release going off by itself is a spring problem either. I have taken it apart to elongate that spring with no success. Appears to be an alignment problem of sorts. Even though the button is now slightly misaligned, when I manually activate the bolt hold open, I can wave the gun around, and hit the butt on the floor and it's no longer releasing by itself. In fact when I press on the bolt release button now, it takes much more effort, which I suspect is the way it was designed. I am glad I sent mine in for warranty. For me even if the last round bolt hold open acts up again, the fact that the bolt doesn't close by itself without touching the button is already an improvement.
 
J if the bolt is not full caught it is going to go off by itself simply by slipping off. The section of the bolt catch that catches the bolt actilually was beginning to round off which might be why they changed the angle on yours to ensure the parts mate better. My glock mags simply do not push the arm of the bolt catch high enough to catch the bolt. My Korean SHK mags work perfectly.
Take Care

Bob
 
my glock17 mag never holds the bolt back so I stopped using it after it failing 3 times haha. might get some of those springs if they work but I only have the 1 glock mag so might just keep it for the sub2k. I'll try the pmags more. the g19 mags should hold it back. but I wonder if the g17 pmag won't work as well as the pressure might be less as they are a bit longer.... I'll have to get to the range and see. I had a sgm 10/30 mag and the corner under where the follower would contact the BHO to push the lever out broke a chunk off after only the third time using it.... kind of weird....

On another side note about "breaking in" the stock trigger. are we all in agreeance that dry firing these triggers a bunch will smooth them out and not damage the firing pin or bolt in the process?
 
Covefrog said:
my glock17 mag never holds the bolt back so I stopped using it after it failing 3 times haha. might get some of those springs if they work but I only have the 1 glock mag so might just keep it for the sub2k. I'll try the pmags more. the g19 mags should hold it back. but I wonder if the g17 pmag won't work as well as the pressure might be less as they are a bit longer.... I'll have to get to the range and see. I had a sgm 10/30 mag and the corner under where the follower would contact the BHO to push the lever out broke a chunk off after only the third time using it.... kind of weird....

On another side note about "breaking in" the stock trigger. are we all in agreeance that dry firing these triggers a bunch will smooth them out and not damage the firing pin or bolt in the process?
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I stopped using Glock mags as well when the LRBHO started getting progressively worse when using them. Then it started happening with my PMAGS and by the time I sent it off to warranty, no mags were locking back - doesn't matter what make or model. None.

The fact that I also had the bolt release going off by itself, I had to think it was all related. And it was based on what Wolverine indicated to me.

Only cost to the owner is shipping it back to Wolverine. They will ship it back to you at their cost. And obviously the warranty work was included.

I have never sent a gun back for warranty in my life. I just did two this year and I am glad I did. The other one had a problem with a defective muzzle brake out of the box which they told me they confirmed there was nothing I could do about it.

I found over the years I have become complacent in seeking warranty on things under warranty, opting instead just to live with a problem I had or try my darndest to find my own solution. If the Freedom Ordnance warranty is limited lifetime, there is no harm in taking advantage of it. Plus if others have the same issues with the same solutions, the company will likely re-engineer something for their future releases, benefitting all future consumers.
 
thegazelle said:
I have posted about this previously in another thread. The problem is not the magazine for the bolt closing by itself (since mine did it with no magazine in there and mine was so sensitive it would go off without even anything touching the gun while it was on the bench resting on a Caldwell bag). It was annoying enough that the last round bolt hold open stopped working on mine completely (this may be magazine related), but the bolt release going off by itself was extremely annoying.

What I did was send mine back to Wolverine for warranty repair. Since it was a limited lifetime warranty I thought why not.

Turns out that they had to do some "cleaning up" on how everything mates together. When I got my gun back last week I can tell that they did something as the bolt release button is now very ever so slightly canted to the left (I can see the mark where it was hitting the receiver previously when it was completely vertical). Unfortunately I wasn't able to make it to the range yesterday due to working insane hours Friday and Saturday and was just too tired to go anywhere. Will hopefully check it out Wednesday late afternoon at the club.

I don't believe the bolt release going off by itself is a spring problem either. I have taken it apart to elongate that spring with no success. Appears to be an alignment problem of sorts. Even though the button is now slightly misaligned, when I manually activate the bolt hold open, I can wave the gun around, and hit the butt on the floor and it's no longer releasing by itself. In fact when I press on the bolt release button now, it takes much more effort, which I suspect is the way it was designed. I am glad I sent mine in for warranty. For me even if the last round bolt hold open acts up again, the fact that the bolt doesn't close by itself without touching the button is already an improvement.
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right I remember reading about that in the other thread. I wish I could see what they modified to see if mine needs it haha. in im bc so it would take awhile to send it back east and then get it back.... my lever is also cocked to the side a little bit from factory. I probably only have 200 rounds through it. if I "shake" the gun around or "hit" the ejection port side on my couch (which im guessing a person should never do to a gun haha) with no clip inserted then the bolt does not release its when I hit the butt stock on the table with the barrel in the air im guessing the buffer knocks back a hair which in turn releases the bolt. sounds like whatever wolverine did fixed that eh :)

at least the trigger doesn't go off by itself. ROFL :dancingbanana:

on a side note the gun does point nice and seems accurate for the 25-50 yard shots I have made so far :)
 
Covefrog I have the G19 mag and two shorter than the 19 and none work. The only mags that have worked for me are the SHK marked mags. All my glock mags work in my Ruger PCC.

Take Care
Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
Covefrog I have the G19 mag and two shorter than the 19 and none work. The only mags that have worked for me are the SHK marked mags. All my glock mags work in my Ruger PCC.

Take Care
Bob
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hmm ok thanks ill have to look for the SHK mags. I have never seen them at any of the shops I goto. it seems like everyones fx9 is slightly different for what they like. im hoping mine likes these mags haha. I guess time till tell. if mine starts to not hold back at all and is super touchy for releasing on its own I'll probably send it into wolverine for some work. :)
Canuck44 did you dry fire yours a bunch to smooth out the trigger also?

thanks for the help eh.
 
No but I did use a trick Riflechair posted on how to improve a trigger on an AR. Look for a sticky on this Forum. NEVER DRY FIRE the gun with the upper off or unhinged. I have read where doing so can Crack the receiver. Only dry fire the trigger when the upper is closed on the receiver. Riflechair's merhod uses a shoe lace and using a cloth buffer to prevent the hammer from striking the receiver. If you can't find the sticky go to YouTube and search for Riflechair. The video will come up.

Tale Care
Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
No but I did use a trick Riflechair posted on how to improve a trigger on an AR. Look for a sticky on this Forum. NEVER DRY FIRE the gun with the upper off or unhinged. I have read where doing so can Crack the receiver. Only dry fire the trigger when the upper is closed on the receiver. Riflechair's merhod uses a shoe lace and using a cloth buffer to prevent the hammer from striking the receiver. If you can't find the sticky go to YouTube and search for Riflechair. The video will come up.

Tale Care
Bob
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Wouldn't a snap cap do the same thing?
 
Canuck44 said:
No but I did use a trick Riflechair posted on how to improve a trigger on an AR. Look for a sticky on this Forum. NEVER DRY FIRE the gun with the upper off or unhinged. I have read where doing so can Crack the receiver. Only dry fire the trigger when the upper is closed on the receiver. Riflechair's merhod uses a shoe lace and using a cloth buffer to prevent the hammer from striking the receiver. If you can't find the sticky go to YouTube and search for Riflechair. The video will come up.

Tale Care
Bob
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I was looking at that looks like the hammer will smash into the front of the receiver.
Here is the link for the video to “wear in” the AR trigger
https://youtu.be/Yeasg5HNbnw

It’s a little different as we don’t have the hook on the back of the hammer but I stuffed a paper towel in-between the hammer and the receiver like riflechair says then I wrapped an old t-shirt around the mag well and receiver to cushion the hand while putting tension on the hammer. I’m hoping the paper towel will cushion the receiver enough as it’s kind of hard to pull up on the hammer to apply the pressure and stop it with your hand from slamming forward haha.

Movie time now haha and we will see how it goes.
 
Covefrog said:
I was looking at that looks like the hammer will smash into the front of the receiver.
Here is the link for the video to “wear in” the AR trigger
https://youtu.be/Yeasg5HNbnw

It’s a little different as we don’t have the hook on the back of the hammer but I stuffed a paper towel in-between the hammer and the receiver like riflechair says then I wrapped an old t-shirt around the mag well and receiver to cushion the hand while putting tension on the hammer. I’m hoping the paper towel will cushion the receiver enough as it’s kind of hard to pull up on the hammer to apply the pressure and stop it with your hand from slamming forward haha.

Movie time now haha and we will see how it goes.
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I use paper towel as well. Just make sure it stays there and do wad it up. It takes quite a few reps. For the first two weeks I would watch tv and do the dry firing with the shoe lace. It does help to smooth out the rough edges and I got to a smooth crisp trigger faster than I think it would take just by dry firing the gun. Much easier on parts like the firing pin and bolt when you are not using either in the process.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
I use paper towel as well. Just make sure it stays there and do wad it up. It takes quite a few reps. For the first two weeks I would watch tv and do the dry firing with the shoe lace. It does help to smooth out the rough edges and I got to a smooth crisp trigger faster than I think it would take just by dry firing the gun. Much easier on parts like the firing pin and bolt when you are not using either in the process.

Take Care

Bob
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Yea definitely easier on all the other parts. I ended up using a dirtbiking glove with lots of padding. Still have the paper towel in there but it Keeps the string from sliding plus I found a way I can release the hammer into the meat of my palm and then just rock it back to #### it again. Should be good. Thanks! Love the hive mind of forums like this!
 
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iloveruger said:
is this considered as handgun or restricted rifle ? https://www.irunguns.com/product/fr...-single-point-bungee-sling-1-magazine-fx9p4-t
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In the US it is considered a handgun. In Canada a restricted rifle I believe. I would not be surprised to see the RCMP change it
s designation now and call it a handgun which of course cannot be imported into Canada. Contact Ironguns.ca and ask them if they can import the gun. I suspect not but do not know for certain. You could also contact your CFO he will know for certain...maybe.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
In the US it is considered a handgun. In Canada a restricted rifle I believe. I would not be surprised to see the RCMP change it
s designation now and call it a handgun which of course cannot be imported into Canada. Contact Ironguns.ca and ask them if they can import the gun. I suspect not but do not know for certain. You could also contact your CFO he will know for certain...maybe.

Take Care

Bob
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https://www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/freedom-ordnance-fx-9-carbine--9mm-4-6--fro-fx9p4-.html


this is having stock instead of the buffer tube and considered restricted rifle. so i assume what i earlier shared is restricted rifle as well ? let me contact irungun. thanks
 
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