The Germans are coming!
- Thread starter Redneck Hippy
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"It's a variant!"...... "It's not a variant!"...... "It's a variant!"...... "It's not a variant!"......
This is the government that banned the plastic clam shell 715T as a variant, so the government can classify anything they want as a variant, for any reason they like. Maybe it "looks too scary"..... bam, that makes it a variant lol.
This is the government that banned the plastic clam shell 715T as a variant, so the government can classify anything they want as a variant, for any reason they like. Maybe it "looks too scary"..... bam, that makes it a variant lol.
I agree...variant is left open and ambiguous, and I suppose it is possible that they can just outright ban this for looks, which it is not beyond the realm of possibility...I will still get one in order to support these companies' efforts in trying to bring to market something that would fit countries like restricted gun laws like ours.
James Reeves / TFB TV has had the whole world as the oyster, insofar as firearms availability, so I can understand that anything like this would be akin to a country banning all USB drives and a company comes out with a new kind of floppy disk, while he still has access to all sorts other modern storage media.
I have told people years ago I would never ever buy a Henry Homesteader, but a few years later, here we are, and I am glad I (eventually) bought one as it's the only thing I (still) have that can shoot my 9mm rounds. Anything else would be welcome at this point, no matter how limited the function is. I don't think anyone is happy that we are considering these types of things, but sadly that is the whole state of affairs in the political climate in which we find ourselves.
Thanks for posting this...I am pleasantly surprised this has an FRT, though I concede that is no guarantee this will be around long term. Still, it's ahead of where the Crypto is, though I realize we are talking apples and oranges.Had to download the public FRT as armalytics doesn't have the latest copy.
Given the fact that the deadline for the "confiscation bribe" is less than a month away, I wonder whether the RCMP would FRT something that would be banned and for which people would from hereon in buy them. I personally think if this came on the market today (depending on price), these would sell like hotcakes. People who never had an AR-platform whether real AR, or other 5.56 guns or PCCs based on AR ergonomics and functions, would, I think, find this very compelling. For SOME of us who had AR-based platform guns which are now banned, may miss the look and feel of having something similar (which I can attest is not the same whatsoever, but you just get used to it).
sillymike
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Well... I hate to be the realistic guy in the room... But all my prohibited firearms used to be legal...
- A valid FRT hasn't stop any politicians (or the horse-people) to change their mind and make it prohib.
Yep. Had a chance to buy one when they were available. That being said it still pisses me off to see how we have to d i c k around to get something that sort of looks like an AR and accept it like it's OK. And at exorbitant prices as well.
I agree, feel your pain and I would think that, me having more than a few prohibs now, that I would be gun shy (no pun intended) to go out to my local gun store and look for something else. But nope, I am either stubborn, dumb or tenacious. Maybe all three - was just at a LGS this past weekend and bought another addition.
Now, I totally get it - I really do. Once bitten, twice shy (or in many of our case, many times bitten, perpetually shy). Well, I would like to think that I have the long game in mind - if I do what a few people I have encountered (mostly on GP) have started doing and packing up and selling everything and conceding to the government that they win...well, what kind of man would I be and what kind of example I would show my kids, the same ones that I told them never let anyone bully you, always go down fighting...and those aren't just platitudes - my parents came to this country, experienced real racism and yet had the resilience and determination, and again, tenacity to make the best of each situation, pivot their expectations and not let bad things get the better of them. I have, I am pleased to say, adopted and inherited their values of self-reliance, independence, and not letting someone else tell me how I should live.
So I was in the gun store last Saturday, and despite a wedding I am contributing to financially, in 70 something days, I continue to not let fear drive my decisions and I picked up something else at the LGS, something else that I never thought I would pickup...it wasn't my thing years ago...it may not be my thing down the line, but it supports my LGS and more importantly, is a reminder to myself that often times the fight is within ourselves - do we take the easier route and give up, or adjust to the realities around us. I take a page out of the apostle Paul in the Bible - even though he was in prison, he still made the best of it and had joy. Not because he could have had it worse, but because his focus and his foundational belief was not in his circumstances.
Perspective is important. As a gun owner, these have been dark times. I have only been a gun owner for about 21 years, but there are those who have been gun owners for a lot longer, and they have seen even a worse slow creep into government overreach. Gun owners in every generation have had to deal with their fair share of increased government vitriol towards us, but like many before us, they just soldier on and adjust and life doesn't stop.
It pains me that I get excited over a pump rifle or a single shot shotgun or a bolt action, or even semi auto hunting shotguns but again, looking at perspective is important. Would I want to be in Japan, where all I can own is what, air rifles or shotguns and I am limited to what, 200 rounds a year, having to change out my casings/hulls for new ones? Would I want to be in Mexico where the only gun store is in Mexico City and is government owned and civilians have nothing (criminals are a different story, but that's outside the scope of what I am writing). Yes, we are living beside a super free country (overall) in terms of firearms ownership, but again, looking at perspective, sometimes we only get upset when we compare ourselves.
For those who watch hockey, it reminds me years ago of Chris Pronger when he played for the St. Louis Blues. Guy got a super rich contract, he was one of the highest paid in the league and was quite happy; however, once he found out about some mediocre to decent player making more....now, his contract is an "insult" and he wanted more. He was happy with what he had before he found out what someone else had.
Now saying we should be happy with what we have - we should not be, and I want to be clear in that - but there are countries that have it worse, and I am glad I am not there (going back to Japan - it may not be a bad place to live - it is low crime, but not because of lack of guns but because of a more refined, respectful and community culture that looks out for their fellow citizen.
I have resolved a few things in my life, some of which I can't discuss here, but it all encompasses my general ethos of not letting the government dictate how I live my life and what decisions I make, aside from clear moral restrictions, like not robbing a bank when I need the cash to get my new AX800. So I will support my LGS come hell or high water. If I don't do it, who will? If we collectively stop buying, our LGS will shut down and we then we will truly have nothing. If we don't keep buying (as we are financially able), companies won't keep trying to put out innovative products knowing there are those of us who appreciate and want to see ingenuity, not just settle for the status quo. I love the fact that Schmeisser is putting out a pump action PCC - I can't wait to get one. But on the other hand, if my LGS has only single shot guns for sale down the line - you can be sure I will be in for at least one of them, and will grab a pack of ammo to boot, as well. I may not want it, and I may think I may not need it, but I do need it, for reasons beyond simple personal material desire.
Sadly, many gun owners cannot see the bigger picture, nor can they differentiate the forest from the trees and just ignore the current noise. We can take a page from those before us, who continued to build their collection, stack their ammo, and continued to enjoy legal sport shooting, target shooting, hunting and collecting within the legal constraints (which are constraining more and more) and just develop a tenacity that has gotten them this far.
That said, the Schmeisser 9mm pump may be just the thing I need to keep me reminded of the good old days, event though we all know it's going to be a "cope gun". I already bought a Taipan X and while at first I thought it goofy, it has grown on me - I am just happy companies put these products to market knowing there are geographies that have very restrictive gun laws. Gotta count the positives, I suppose.
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BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Scotland
There are two Child entries in the FRT for that model.
119133-1 has a 454mm barrel and is Non-Restricted
119133-2 has a 254mm barrel and is Prohibited.
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Scotland
I was told it is in the 3k price range. ya....
That might be.
Until all our "poor" importers, distributers, and on the brink of bankrupt gun stores, take their "cut" it is possible to be much more.
