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The Great North Coach Guns Suggestions
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These have all been done in the past but they add to cost
We'll do what we can for price
As usual the problem isn't to sell them but to find product. The last two times we had forklift pallets of suitable guns. We would have them for sale all the time if we could find enough.
We will try to offer the same package as before but we are hoping for additional variations since there are so many requests every time.
Ad text below:
All grades come with double triggers and extractors and have no hammers. Hammer guns, single trigger guns and ejector guns will be sold separately.
Grade I
The grade I Coach Gun is the basic grade, made from good condition SxS shotguns.
Once the gun is checked for quality, condition and function, it is cut, then recrowned and cold blue is applied as a finishing touch.
Grade II
These are made from very good condition shotguns from reputable brands. Because of the nature of 20th century European gun manufacturing, this may include well made SxS shotguns from a small shop you haven’t necessarily heard of if you are not well versed in this field (usually from a place with a strong gun making tradition and famous for having hundreds of small makers like Suhl or Brescia). In addition to being made from better guns, there is the additional step of installing a bead.
Professionals who are shopping for a gun to depend on should buy a Grade II gun, give it a deep cleaning and pattern it.
Can I order a gun with another barrel length?
Coach Guns are cut just a bit longer than 18” as a protection against zealous interpretations of the law, and to leave some leeway in case of future muzzle damage.
Other barrel lengths are possible, and you can order normally and write your barrel length request in the order notes.
Those will need to be backordered as we only keep stock of 18” guns.
A popular choice is 20”, as it is a good compromise for improved handling.
Can you coach gun my gun?
We can do custom jobs above grade II if you provide the firearm, usually this means closing the barrel gap with a carefully inletted piece of blued steel. If you buy a shotgun from the store and pick the option to have it coach gunned before shipping, it cannot be returned once modified.
Why is there no bead on the Grade I?
Beads are overrated, even more so on a SxS, and even more so on cylinder barrels.
The absence of a bead may actually help you shoot better since many shotgun beginners (and some not so beginners) try to aim their shotguns.
What else is underrated? Cylinder bores. Many people severely underestimate how they pattern. The best choke for an upland gun is Improved Cylinder, which isn’t too far from a cylinder bore. With the better ammunition we have today, the overly tight chokes of vintage guns are becoming less needed. During a trip where I lived on squirrels and bannock I have made impressive shots with the very first Great North Coach Gun, a gun that one of you now has.
Mostly for time reasons, I do not make coach guns myself anymore, I have an “assembly line” where different steps are done by different people of corresponding skill.
High skill operations are done by an amateur gunsmith whose work has earned him more than 800 good reviews on a popular gun forum.
We can offer those guns at incredible prices notably by grouping them in one ad and avoiding the time intensive step of selling guns individually. Compare the price of cold war era European Side by Sides with the prices of new imports of lesser quality. The Grade II Coach Gun is one of the best values on the Canadian market.
Ad text below:
All grades come with double triggers and extractors and have no hammers. Hammer guns, single trigger guns and ejector guns will be sold separately.
Grade I
The grade I Coach Gun is the basic grade, made from good condition SxS shotguns.
Once the gun is checked for quality, condition and function, it is cut, then recrowned and cold blue is applied as a finishing touch.
Grade II
These are made from very good condition shotguns from reputable brands. Because of the nature of 20th century European gun manufacturing, this may include well made SxS shotguns from a small shop you haven’t necessarily heard of if you are not well versed in this field (usually from a place with a strong gun making tradition and famous for having hundreds of small makers like Suhl or Brescia). In addition to being made from better guns, there is the additional step of installing a bead.
Professionals who are shopping for a gun to depend on should buy a Grade II gun, give it a deep cleaning and pattern it.
Can I order a gun with another barrel length?
Coach Guns are cut just a bit longer than 18” as a protection against zealous interpretations of the law, and to leave some leeway in case of future muzzle damage.
Other barrel lengths are possible, and you can order normally and write your barrel length request in the order notes.
Those will need to be backordered as we only keep stock of 18” guns.
A popular choice is 20”, as it is a good compromise for improved handling.
Can you coach gun my gun?
We can do custom jobs above grade II if you provide the firearm, usually this means closing the barrel gap with a carefully inletted piece of blued steel. If you buy a shotgun from the store and pick the option to have it coach gunned before shipping, it cannot be returned once modified.
Why is there no bead on the Grade I?
Beads are overrated, even more so on a SxS, and even more so on cylinder barrels.
The absence of a bead may actually help you shoot better since many shotgun beginners (and some not so beginners) try to aim their shotguns.
What else is underrated? Cylinder bores. Many people severely underestimate how they pattern. The best choke for an upland gun is Improved Cylinder, which isn’t too far from a cylinder bore. With the better ammunition we have today, the overly tight chokes of vintage guns are becoming less needed. During a trip where I lived on squirrels and bannock I have made impressive shots with the very first Great North Coach Gun, a gun that one of you now has.
Mostly for time reasons, I do not make coach guns myself anymore, I have an “assembly line” where different steps are done by different people of corresponding skill.
High skill operations are done by an amateur gunsmith whose work has earned him more than 800 good reviews on a popular gun forum.
We can offer those guns at incredible prices notably by grouping them in one ad and avoiding the time intensive step of selling guns individually. Compare the price of cold war era European Side by Sides with the prices of new imports of lesser quality. The Grade II Coach Gun is one of the best values on the Canadian market.
You’ve got to pay to play; the original build quality will be better than Brazilian and cheap Turk guns and still cheaper in price even with a couple hundred tacked on.
Would over unders come in at less than ~ 1 grand being asked for the current crop of Churchill shorties even with irons?
I would like one of these with sights, a nice stiff safety and swivels for work.
Would love to hear more about the great north shot and ball guns…
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Likely, since we can sell decent Baikals under 500$ untouched
I don't think I have another rifled SxS to play with, we just sold the one I know I had so I'll have to be on the lookout
My ideal version that wouldn't break the bank but still be a fun gun would be 16.5" barreled version of the Grade II. I might add a better pad, or I might not, but I don't see how that's anyone's problem but mine. It's a cool gun, extractors, cylinder bores, super short and light, 99% of the shells I fire off are 2 3/4".
How did they make out with shorty shells?
How did they make out with shorty shells?
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