The Gun Case Thread

Very nice, Pinfire! No Dixons or Hawksleys in this group, I'm afraid. I'd like to come across one with the integral whistle...
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By the way, this is a very handy tool and inexpensive tool to have whether in your case or not. Yeah, that mainspring needed some tidying up, as did the rest of the locks.

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Very nice, Pinfire! No Dixons or Hawksleys in this group, I'm afraid. I'd like to come across one with the integral whistle...
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By the way, this is a very handy tool and inexpensive tool to have whether in your case or not. Yeah, that mainspring needed some tidying up, as did the rest of the locks.

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A rather hurriedly made mainspring cramp. Pretty well indispensable if you want to dismantle a lock.
 
ok, it is a shot speader (or concentrator, depending on the length of the steel hook). Goes into a cartridge and hooks into the wad
I don't have the book "Early Shotgun Concentrators and Spreaders" by Gary Muckel but did find a quote from it on the internet about the Sporting Shrapnell device:
"The Automatic Shrapnell Co. operated from 36 George Street, Edinburgh, Scotland. It began operations by the inventor, John Watson Johns, with a patent in March 19, 1884. The company may have closed near August 31, 1892 when it seems that Mr. Johns may have died, however, this event has not been substantiated.
John’s patent shrapnell shell is an interesting design with two brass egg shell-like segments filled with shot that are held together by a straight wire spindle fixed at one end to a wad. The segments are meant to slide along the spindle before opening and allowing the shot to spread. Air friction after firing a loaded shell pulls the cardboard and felt wad and attached straight wire spindle through the guide holes in the shot segments and allows the segments to separate and release the shot. The wire was intended to be cut at chosen lengths to adjust the distance at which the shot would spread. Alternatively the wire could be bent or hooked so that the segments could not slide off the wire spindle thus allowing the unit to stay together and act as a slug for use with large game.
Both spherical and conical (or elongated) shaped shells were made. All of the brass segments bare the inscription, Johns’ Patent Sporting Shrapnell No. 5101. The designation No. 5101 refers to the patent number as issued on March 19, 1884 by the British patent office."

That's wild John!
If it got hung up at all on firing and didn't open I imagine it would do some serious damage to a little grouse!
Even if it did open up, how about the 2 'egg shell' halves themselves, they really would act like shrapnell, no? I imagine they might....
I was reading in Greener's 'Choke Bores' about the choke trials in 1875 that some of the contestants were unfairly using concentrators *Pape I think??*, and big chunks of the solid wood pattern board frames were being blown out.
So as a result the judges, who had been standing nearby, were officially repositioned to a safer distance in case of more dangerous flyers!
That book was a hoot I'll have to post about it, the formal language combined with the outright mudslinging was entertaining
 
Case accessories, i know it isn't a shotgun but is a cased gun, a 1856 Charles Lancaster oval bored rifle in 40 bore, not sure how many tools were supplied with the gun but there are a lot in the case now and i do believe many are original with the gun

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that sounds like a plan when we get closer to June 3rd we can try to make something work out for the classic, i could bring your rifle along so you can have a look at it

I have a Westley Richard rifle cased with a few pieces in the case i will post those for Mr. Ashcroft as i think he has a soft spot for these guns
 
This thread is getting better and better thanks to all the CGN collectors.
I have a fondness for English Oil Bottles, particularly the glass bottles that are hard to find.
This glass bottle has E J Churchill marked on the top cap. I'm not sure if the top is silver, or possibly pewter, don't think it is nickel---please don't be shy to offer an opinion.

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Here is the Westley Richards, not many accessories but still has the bullet mold numbered to the gun a extra long range site and a few pieces, one of the interesting part is a letter from Westley Richard from Dec 1934 where one of the owners asked for information which states not much information form the records on this gun. it is 12 bore single rifle with 2 groove rifling and sold to Maxwell Steele on Aug 4th 1948

I included a picture of the patch box engraving of the giraffe, and there are a couple more animals on the gun which are African animals so this gun was meant for large game i would think.

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Here is the Westley Richards, not many accessories but still has the bullet mold numbered to the gun a extra long range site and a few pieces, one of the interesting part is a letter from Westley Richard from Dec 1934 where one of the owners asked for information which states not much information form the records on this gun. it is 12 bore single rifle with 2 groove rifling and sold to Maxwell Steele on Aug 4th 1948

I included a picture of the patch box engraving of the giraffe, and there are a couple more animals on the gun which are African animals so this gun was meant for large game i would think.

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Well if you ever consider parting with it……….
 
That is a fantastic cased rifle, WR1894, with accessories of highest quality. Amazing.
Another fate of vintage tools, aside from being lost, is being relegated to a dusty bin in a basement or garage for 50 years or more where they become just more rusty old junk. Normally I would not advocate painting antiques but these particular ones were badly rusted with little original finish and were nothing special in the first place. I thought I would make them more presentable.
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And a group photo of my shotshell turnover tools. If anyone needs a .410 tool, that's one on the bottom right. The red one on bottom left is a 12ga by Hawksley that will be donated to my friend's hammergun case. The silver one is E.M. Reilly branded and I bought it for my Reilly case however it doesn't fit. That one was made by James Dixon and Sons, Sheffield. Both the Dixon and Hawskley tools feature case colour hardening on the steel parts.
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Catch up time - more case accessories that hitch hiked in here within various cases.
 

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The Westley Richards connection - of course.
 

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And back to cases…..this was my project case for this early winter. I needed a period correct case for my 1850 - 1855 vintage Westley Richards 16 gauge percussion side by side. Orphan cases of that vintage are pretty well unobtainium but a vintage gun aquaintance offered up a dilapidated wreck. Too far gone? Both endflaps and the backboard missing from the lid, broken out corners, perished stitching, loose partitions, moth damage, broken lock, no straps, stains & scars, but the box was solid and the handle was sound. It was a massive rebuild, here is what I started with….
 

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Ca 1850 case rebuild in progress….
 

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Progress!
 

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And the finished project with it’s new occupant. I’m satisfied, good for another 175 years. I believe this type of compact case was the first step away from the long used standard oak or mahogany chests but they had a very short use span. Look closely and maybe you can see why this would be so.
 

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