The gun jumps ... to the Left?

Next week wife back to work :) the garage is mine again... I will melt the lead weights from above picture into a single piece, maybe more compact as well.
 
.... I have no experience with your weird looking set up. I have always used sand bags, front and rear.
That is the point, I was playing and trying many scenarios (not with this gun) in past years and these how we get preferences.
Some things works and some not really to my liking.
I have learned that I don't like sand bags and don't like bipods, I am not saying these doesn't work I just prefer a bit different approach...after trying my one-piece-rest for example...
Bench tops at the ranges are soo different, tall or low or old or flexing and sloped or slippery or just any other you name it.
My main goal is to keep the gun in "bubble" and consistently, and go from there. Now I am facing with this 308 recoil to figure that out somehow.
 
I shot a .308 in Benchrest shooting many years ago... I found free recoil did not work well. Shot much better hanging on to it. Sand bags were proven to be more accurate than hard rests back then. I don't think a hard rest is that good.
 
I have a over the barrel bipod on my other gun, I like only that design. Keeps the gun in bubble, no need to wiggle it after every shot, the gravity does the job.
Unfortunately I cannot fit it to this synthetic stock. I am eyeing one heavy chassis shall work well, but that will have to wait for later this year.

This one looks promising:
https://spuhrwebshop.com/en/chassis
 
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I shot a .308 in Benchrest shooting many years ago... I found free recoil did not work well. Shot much better hanging on to it. Sand bags were proven to be more accurate than hard rests back then. I don't think a hard rest is that good.
I found that a forend will "bounce" off a hard surface more than a sandbag or something with a bit of give.
 
I have a over the barrel bipod on my other gun, I like only that design. Keeps the gun in bubble, no need to wiggle it after every shot, the gravity does the job.
Unfortunately I cannot fit it to this synthetic stock. I am eyeing one heavy chassis shall work well, but that will have to wait for later this year.

This one looks promising:
https://spuhrwebshop.com/en/chassis
You won't want to use chassis if you plan to shoot F class, the weight limit for F TR is 8kg.
 
I found that a forend will "bounce" off a hard surface more than a sandbag or something with a bit of give.
Why many shooters put something soft under their bipod legs. Heavy carpet, rubber etc. But most shooting benches suck because you gotta lean over and cannot square up.. unless you got a very high setup.



OP, but I will say. I'm sorry I was a #### to you. Congrats on the sub moa group.
 
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Two months since I started the OP, got a Rempel rest in meantime. Still using the PQP for rear support.
canadiangunnutz.com/forum/threads/recommend-me-a-f-class-bipod.2466631/page-2

Shooting from a bench @ 300 I cannot really say this rest eliminated all the jump, the 5 shot groups seem to me a bit tighter 0.45 MOA, but a goal is to get these down sub 0.3 MOA. I see the Labradar data a bit erratic...that is most likely playing with me as well.
Next step maybe to replace the PQP rear rest with a rear bag? I don't know....need to play with that idea :)
 
I dunno, I have seen lots of rifles with chassis tgat make weight in F/TR.
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That weight limitation is for people going to those sanctioned matches, if you just shoot for honor/fun/practice, you can shoot in any weight you like, no problem with that.
People allocate more weight on the barrel than chassis/stock.

The jump is either the front of the your file not heavy enough or you are not handling the recoil properly. Your point of aim after firing shift to the left usually means your cheek pushing the butt stock to the right or your body/shoulder pocket is not squared with the rifle.
It's really depends how much shift to the left you had, if within 2mil/8MOA, I wouldn't worry too much as long as it groups.
 
That weight limitation is for people going to those sanctioned matches, if you just shoot for honor/fun/practice, you can shoot in any weight you like, no problem with that.
People allocate more weight on the barrel than chassis/stock.

The jump is either the front of the your file not heavy enough or you are not handling the recoil properly. Your point of aim after firing shift to the left usually means your cheek pushing the butt stock to the right or your body/shoulder pocket is not squared with the rifle.
It's really depends how much shift to the left you had, if within 2mil/8MOA, I wouldn't worry too much as long as it groups.
Our matches are not sanctioned , but we run strictly to ICFRA/DCRA because many of our members shoot out of town as well.
We had several Ft?TR rifles in chassis at our matches.
As as jumping to the left goes, I am sure it is easily fixed by using a proper front rest or bipod
Cat
 
Our matches are not sanctioned , but we run strictly to ICFRA/DCRA because many of our members shoot out of town as well.
We had several Ft?TR rifles in chassis at our matches.
As as jumping to the left goes, I am sure it is easily fixed by using a proper front rest or bipod
Cat
Interested to know what chassis they use, cause I can't figure out how the chassis weight fit into the 18lb limit if they are using the same 30inch or longer straight barrel which is about 9lb already, trigger and action 2lb, scope and rings close to 2lb, bipod 1.5lb, which left 3.5-4lb to the chassis.
 
Interested to know what chassis they use, cause I can't figure out how the chassis weight fit into the 18lb limit if they are using the same 30inch or longer straight barrel which is about 9lb already, trigger and action 2lb, scope and rings close to 2lb, bipod 1.5lb, which left 3.5-4lb to the chassis.
I think a couple were MDT possibly, barrels likely were 28" but I do know one was a 30".
Cat
 
That weight limitation is for people going to those sanctioned matches, if you just shoot for honor/fun/practice, you can shoot in any weight you like, no problem with that.
There are at least two shooters I know using a chassis on a mouse gun this weekend at the APRA matches in Homestead.
These two are newer shooters to F/TR, but yesterday they posted some low 70's at 500 to 900, so they are doing alright .
Cat
 
I think a couple were MDT possibly, barrels likely were 28" but I do know one was a 30".
Cat
For 28" barrel least likely it's a straight barrel, might be heavy varmint or similar, so weight is less, probably around 7lb, left more room for chassis.

There are at least two shooters I know using a chassis on a mouse gun this weekend at the APRA matches in Homestead.
These two are newer shooters to F/TR, but yesterday they posted some low 70's at 500 to 900, so they are doing alright .
Cat
I don't see much point using a "heavy" chassis in F-TR game because of the weight restriction, if F-Open, it has extra 4lb room for a chassis. But you probably lost access to those competition single shot action. It is not a must have thing, but I believe most of the top competitors do not use repeater action for this type of shooting.
By the way, those new shooters they were doing really well at long range.
 
I see your adjustable butt plate is set with the heel to the right of center. The rifle recoils straight back but the resistance is on the right side of the rifle. Perhaps while shooting your shoulder is pressing harder on the heel of the butt plate than the toe. For every action there is a reaction so the rifle moves/torques left. I know the adjustable butt plate is to make the rifle feel perfect for you but maybe try centering the plate and shooting it!
 
For 28" barrel least likely it's a straight barrel, might be heavy varmint or similar, so weight is less, probably around 7lb, left more room for chassis.


I don't see much point using a "heavy" chassis in F-TR game because of the weight restriction, if F-Open, it has extra 4lb room for a chassis. But you probably lost access to those competition single shot action. It is not a must have thing, but I believe most of the top competitors do not use repeater action for this type of shooting.
By the way, those new shooters they were doing really well at long range.
It's actually a 29" IIRC.
This gun is also used in PRS, that is why it's in a chassis.
The reason the vast majority of Fclass rifles are single shot is for ease of feeding and for stiffness.
The TR rifle I am using these days for example is an older sleeved 600 built by Jim Dugan .
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