The gun that saves Smith and Wesson? (M&P)

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I'm sure this topic has been done to death before and I'm sure some will say Smith and Wesson doesn't need saving but I think they did (at least in terms of pistols) and I apologize if this topic is redundant.

I finally picked up the new S&W M&P in 9x19mm and shot it yesterday and it was great. I found it kicked very little, even compared to my slightly heavier CZ-SP-01 Phantom (polymer) with very little muzzle rise, even compared to the Glock 17, I think. I was able to get my sights right back on target with natural ease. The grip angle is alot more natural for me than that of the Glock, the controls are easy and well positioned and the magwell is slightly funelled, easing magazine reloading. Plus, the pistol is small and lightweight and doesn't look horrible like a Glock. You can also change the backstrap on the grips (I chose the small one), which is actually incredibly easy to change. One could shoot this gun with one's friend and constantly change the backstrap size depending on who's shooting, it's that easy. The gun comes with nice genuine Novak sights on it, although I'm not a huge fan of the white dots. I've only put 200 rounds through it, but so far, it's flawless. This gun is definetely NOT S&W Sigma mk.II.
 
OK I 'll be the first to say it Smith and Wesson Doesn't need saving. This company had its abandonment back in the Clinton days when Smith and Wesson caved into his bill. Long story look it up. Since that time Smith and Wesson weathered the storm and bounced back with many innovative ideas. There revolver line has a huge following, they also introduced a 1911 variant Blah Blah. The M&P is a great pistol for the money. Glad the grip works for you. I had the chance to try it and as much as I thought it was a neat pistol , it did not feel good in my hands no matter which strap was used. . The Glock felt better for me. See how this works? Congrats on your purchase.
 
they are good

when i went to do the cdp course from 20 members 18 have mp 9,40,and 45, including mi self so y guess you are right, the other 2 have glock 17 and 22 y wonder why its that :p:jerkit:......dont get my wrong i do have a glock 17 first gen, with over 80 thousand rounds down the pipe, all reloads .
 
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joseaventurero said:
when i went to do the cdp course from 20 members 18 have mp 9,40,and 45, including mi self so y guess you are right, the other 2 have glock 17 and 22 y wonder why its that :p:jerkit:
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Guess those 2 wanted a gun that worked...:D

In all seriousness, I like the M&P, but at my Black Badge course, only one guy had an M&P, and the mags kept falling out of it everytime he fired, no matter how hard he seated them. I believe Greentips had an issue with his M&P, but S&W fixed it. I know every manufacturer has issues, and I'm sure S&W will get all the bugs worked out, but until then, I'll stick with my Glock.

Oh yeah, I don't think S&W needed saving...
 
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Smith don't need to be save. They are good enough to run their business until one day American don't want a gun but it seems won't happen. M&P is some of the best design but lack of qualities control. Lemon rate seems to be a little higher than their revolver. If all the bugs work out, I think they will own a lot of market share.

Trigun
 
Trigun said:
Smith don't need to be save. They are good enough to run their business until one day American don't want a gun but it seems won't happen. M&P is some of the best design but lack of qualities control. Lemon rate seems to be a little higher than their revolver. If all the bugs work out, I think they will own a lot of market share.

Trigun
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I call BS! :rolleyes: :eek:Sources/evidence??? I know the opposite. ;) The one's that first came out had a couple issues. That was couple years ago when they were brand new. The last couple years have been solid. With the N revision or the newer one with dots in the polymer you're good to go. :)
 
I've seen 2 m&p's have broken slide stops and one had trigger problems. I like the design but I prefer HK or Glock for polymer frame pistol. I've owned most of the wonder 9's.
 
mackattack said:
I call BS! :rolleyes: :eek:Sources/evidence??? I know the opposite. ;) The one's that first came out had a couple issues. That was couple years ago when they were brand new. The last couple years have been solid. With the N revision or the newer one with dots in the polymer you're good to go. :)
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Relax brother, I didn't say you have a bad gun:D Infact I really want to buy one but please read this;

http://mp-pistol.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=12438
http://mp-pistol.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=19164
http://mp-pistol.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=3536
http://mp-pistol.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=18775
http://mp-pistol.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=18720
http://mp-pistol.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=18556
Those seems to be newer guns but think about if one can fire a m&P several thousand rounds without problems, then on one should have problems with the same design.

Enjoy

Trigun
 
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It's a shame about those issues. I've only put a couple hundred rounds through mine and haven't a problem yet. Oh well, if I do, I'll get it fixed and shoot (woot) more CZ :D
 
I have a glock 17 and a S&W m&p 9 , I had a a problem with the mag falling out after I switched the mag release to left handed use. It stopped when I switched back. All things being said I do like the Smith, it's fun to shoot and 9mm ammo is still cheap to buy. Have a friend who has the m&p40, they bought It after trying my m&p. It was cheap to get into and good bang for the buck....well that is my 2 cents worth!


....can't dance and too fat too fly..............
 
I went right out and bought a M&P 9 the same day a buddy of mine let me shoot his .40. I think its awsome. I shot the glock 17, and a couple of others that same day but when I first held the M&P I just had to have one! My only complaint is I can't seem to find any mags for the darn thing.... I only want 2 or 3 more! lol

Seriously where can I get some mags..... they seem like hens teeth (at least for me)!

tks
 
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