The Heckler & Koch P7

P7m8

When it comes down to practical use of a firearm we need to consider the reliability factor and how suitable the pistol is for the indidvidual end user.
The P7M8, in my opinion is much over-rated with regards to reliability. I've had mine for 7 years and we've had our issues( extractors getting airborne, 2x), kicking too hard(I have arthritis), getting too hot after 100 rounds to shoot.
On the other hand I like its compact configuration, its safety features and its inherent accuracy.
As far as German engineering goes, yeah, some of their stuff is OK, but not all of it. So, as you can see its a mixed bag. Somewhat like being married. Is there a man, or a woman alive, who can honestly say that life has been nothing but a bed of roses? Life is full of compromises, and impermance is a fact of life.
Would I buy the P7M8 again? ( I paid $500 for mine, in almost new condition), you bet I would. A while ago the local sheriff and I exchanged our firearms. He was surprised at the accuracy of the P7M8,
and I was dismayed at the terrible double -action pull of his S&W 9mm. I think I'll keep the H&K for a while longer.
I really prefer to shoot the Desert(Baby) Eagle to the H&K, especially when I want to shoot 300+ over the course of the afternoon(which of course I can't do with the H&K[I don't like blisters on my trigger finger. You also need to be aware that the P7M8 was designed for the (then) West German Police, and they would hardly shoot 50+ rounds at a time in the normal pursuit of their duties]. The Desert Eagle is a lot less painful for me and besides I can shoot cheaper lead bullets.
Just one man's opinion.
 
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That is one thing for sure that the P7 has. They are definitely not getting cheaper. Mags for these things are $130, if you can find them.
 
Time to give this post a BTT. Since my last post I have added a M8 & M10. I just love these pistols. I'm going to start looking for a Jubilee next I guess. Actually there is a question for you all. What are the more "collectable" P7's out there? While I definitely don't have a problem with quantity, quality is starting to make more sense.
 
let me rephrase... no it'll take too long.. let me sum up....

What's the diff between a PSP and say a P7M8....

PSP has a European heel magazine release and lacks the additional heat shield so it gets toasty after a few hundred rounds. PSP's are usually surplus German service pistols.

BTW, how much are these things going for these days? What can i expect to get for a lightly used P7M13?
 
Oops, my bad. The most obvious is that the PSP has a heel release and the M8 etc have theirs by the trigger guard. There is also a heat shield on the newer pistols due to the pistol getting quite warm with rapid firing.
 
Haha probably the most important consideration! I held my PSP and M8 side by side and honestly thought, "So this little sheet metal mag catch, and modified trigger guard were worth $600. Sigh..."

Word is though, the M8's mag catch, heat shield, and larger trigger guard are alloyed with Unobtanium, hence the price.
 
Found this on the net (only trouble is VBulletin doesn't like tabs or tables...
Feature/Model PSP (older model) M8 (newer model)
Magazine Release "European" heel of the grip "Standard" just behind the trigger
Magazine Catch Hole Bottom back of the magazine Top, right side of the magazine
Trigger Guard (itself) Shorter (for bare finger) Longer (for gloved finger)
Trigger Guard (top of hole) Unprotected Protected by a heat shield
Trigger Face More rounded Flatter
Striker Smaller dia./Unblued Larger dia./Blued
Striker Bushing (Bush) Need special tool to unscrew Can unscrew by hand (supposedly)

the page is http://www.enter.net/~samlex/p7.htm
 
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