The Hunter Marksman Challenge - use your hunting rifle!

Heading out soon to sight in my .243 ..... should make for a good little rifle for this, will give it a try....

Great commentary as usual Brobee... And nice to see a guy who knows how to use his sling for more than a carry strap.....
 
I'll try and do this on days off (two weeks from now). I will also use a No. 1.

Perhaps you should post scores in the original post much like the 1/2" challenge in the rimfire thread (and others like it.)

One thing I think most hunters do not do enough is competitive shooting. I used to shoot service rifle and it was superb practice for hunting. Too bad about the politics that shut it down in Calgary.

Just for clarification, does time start when you fire shot #1 or when you shoulder the rifle? Any limit to the rest used for supported sitting?
I think this will be fun and will be a good reference, however I do have some reservations about using the scores to get a "baseline" as an equal quality shooter will have a significant variation in score depending on equipment used. So equipment becomes a large variable making it hard to compare yourself to a baseline.

I'll also try this at a 25 yard 2" target with a rimfire for comparison.

Re Service Rifle - I feel the same way on all your points.

Re Rimfire Practice - That's an AWESOME idea! I'm looking for a winchester low wall in 22r for this exact reason. Dry fire practice in the basement has also helped me a lot (make sure you do your PROVE first!).

Re Timing Clarification - time starts when the first round goes off (so you can take as long as you want to get set up), and finishes when the 10th round goes off.

Re Limit to the Rest: none. If you want to use a bipod on a log (or even when proned out), have at her! The only caveat I would add is that the bipod should remain on the rifle for the complete event....kinda like how you would carry your rifle around for hunting.

Re Baseline and comparing to others: I'd like to think of the challenge as more of a contest against yourself...the idea being to measure your personal baseline with your rifle and whatever method you choose, then to participate in some of the practice exercises I'll post over the next few months (and am totally open to suggestions from participants on what these should be!), then re-run the exercise later and see how much your "score" improves. Self improvement is the goal.

But because I know there are lots of folks who are also interested in seeing how they do compared to others, if I can get enough different results from folks shooting different types of rifles, I will break the performance data into distinct sets based on "class" of rifle and publish statistics that way.

It would be super interesting to see more than one set of results from CGN'ers...ie: one with your M305, one with your ruger scout rifle (woohoo 10 round mag!), and one with your Rem700.

Cheers, and thanks for great feedback!

Brobee
 
I like it - I think I have enough sst's to try it but the firing prone may be an issue at my range with the berms. We'll see.


Maybe you could hijack a picnic table or shooting bench and start the course-of-fire with the prone position, moving up through the positions until you leap off the table to finish from the standing position?


Great initiative. Will try when spring arrive.

Sounds like a fun challenge. I will see if I can get rid of the kids for an afternoon and hAve my wife film.

No prone at ranges around here, have to work up some new loads in spring and try it at a pit in the fall.

Looking forward to getting out to try this.


AWESOME! Can't wait to see how you make out.


Poor time of year for this. I wont be able to do it until April


Agree that winter sucks...my course pretty much finishes in May though (then graduation in June woohoo! Unless I screw something up...d'oh!). Will leave the challenge open indefinitely though, as I'm super-keen to see how you make out and generally interested in what the various distribution curves will look like for folks with different kinds of rifles.


Heading out soon to sight in my .243 ..... should make for a good little rifle for this, will give it a try....

Great commentary as usual Brobee... And nice to see a guy who knows how to use his sling for more than a carry strap.....


I am pretty much hopeless without my sling. Thanks for the kind words, and I can't wait to see how you make out with your .243.

Cheers,

Brobee
 
Re: Calgary/Bow Valley Area

Unfortunate the public range has been shut down, we could have been the group of crazy rednecks clustered around one table with 10 guns.

I am in school most weekends - maybe I can find a window some weekend in Feb where I could host a bunch of you as guests at my farm out by Sundre. Won't know if this is possible until feb sometime, will post more as I try to get more organized.

That would be a fun day!

Cheers,

Brobee
 
I'll give it a try on my next days off, although I don't hunt with a "traditional" hunting rifle so you can choose to include the results if you want. I use a Sako TRG-22. I'll also give it a try with my Marlin 45-70 and my 30-06, but I'm not nearly as accurate with them.
 
Yes fun, and potentially embarrassing for me when I get schooled.


Nah....the worse you do this time around, with a bit of practice the more likely you are to bask in the glow of "mega improvement" when we re-do the challenge just before hunting season!


i'm in, love these shoots.
I'll hop on this when I get home late Feb... should have something by the 29th.
Ill giver a go sunday hopefully.
I may give it a go tomorrow if enough snow melted


Sweet! Excited for you to report back!


I'll give it a try on my next days off, although I don't hunt with a "traditional" hunting rifle so you can choose to include the results if you want. I use a Sako TRG-22. I'll also give it a try with my Marlin 45-70 and my 30-06, but I'm not nearly as accurate with them.
Cool, I'm in.

Can we use more than one rifle if we hunt with them all?


I think it would be SWEET to see results from as many different rifles as you're prepared to try out.

Cheers,

Brobee
 
Just to add.... I will sight in my .243, but you made a great point, my scout has a 10 round mag that has been sitting on the shelf doing squat as I bought a smaller polymer one, as it is a hunting tool to me......

That being said, I will be an interesting data point for you..... A guy that can shoot ten off quick without reload time.... But is there penalty on accuracy without a reloading rest between shots?.....

Let me know what helps.... I could actually do both if you like..... One with my scout and one with the m77 compact in .243......
 
Just to add.... I will sight in my .243, but you made a great point, my scout has a 10 round mag that has been sitting on the shelf doing squat as I bought a smaller polymer one, as it is a hunting tool to me......

That being said, I will be an interesting data point for you..... A guy that can shoot ten off quick without reload time.... But is there penalty on accuracy without a reloading rest between shots?.....

Let me know what helps.... I could actually do both if you like..... One with my scout and one with the m77 compact in .243......

Would love to see your results from both rifles, as well as your musings on how the experience went for you.

Cheers,

Brobee
 
Just to add.... I will sight in my .243, but you made a great point, my scout has a 10 round mag that has been sitting on the shelf doing squat as I bought a smaller polymer one, as it is a hunting tool to me......

That being said, I will be an interesting data point for you..... A guy that can shoot ten off quick without reload time.... But is there penalty on accuracy without a reloading rest between shots?.....

Let me know what helps.... I could actually do both if you like..... One with my scout and one with the m77 compact in .243......

I have the m77 in 243 also but 22" tube, and I believe we have the same scout.
 
I forgot about the Ruger GSR guys. I was thinking that this might put the faster shooting/higher capacity lever guns on a more even footing with the "inherently accurate" bolts.

Planning on using my t3 with reciever sights for this one. I was just going to shoot 4, and then single load instead of dropping the magazine and loading 3.
 
I was at the range yesterday, only rifke I had that was suitable was a Mossberg Patrol in .223,with 10 round mag! :) I hunt yotes with the .223 so figured why not? I'll probably repeat with my 300,303 and 375

Range was wet and muddy so I didn't want to sit or lie in it. Decided to do 2 offhand and 4 each of kneeling and kneeling supported. I actually did 3 of supported which is why you see me tilt the rifke for last round-checking if there was still ammo in it!

Shot at a 8" gong which you hear clank when hit. Missed the second offhand shot. This doesn't help with Brobees project but I had fun. :) Can someone embed the video for me? Can't figure it out on my Itelephone :)

http://youtu.be/EZl3DxceM5M
 
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