The inbound Garands are NOT Korean, they're GREEK!

Phat Eagle said:
At least that is what I've heard from a few different insiders... Makes sense as the Koreans were looking to liquidate something like 180000, which is far more than any importer could EVER hope to move in Canada.

I also heard that there are four different importers looking to get their hands on them, and many of them are asking the retailers to pay cash up front without terms (eg: commitment without inspection or assurances as to quality), which is apparently somewhat unprecedented.

Anyone else picked up similar info?

I just wish there would be more ACTUAL news, so all the speculation stops!

In the meantime, I continue to save my pennies...
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You guys crack me up!
There is only one importer to canada.
They are not the greek lot.
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Are these the same rifles Obama that has blocked importation into the US? Because if so, they're not coming to Canada. They're US property on loan to Korea. As such, they can't be sold off to Canadians; they have to go through the Civilian Marksmanship Program.

The same goes for the M1 Carbines and M14s.
 
H Wally said:
I know eh? Scrap value on them can't be more than $50/gun I would think. Realistically probably a lot more like $10 to buy it for scrap... though I suspect some country or another is pressuring Korea to melt them down and giving them incentives elsewhere to do so. Immediately the EU with their small arms treaties comes to mind.
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That's probably the deal..
 
maxman1 said:
Are these the same rifles Obama that has blocked importation into the US? Because if so, they're not coming to Canada. They're US property on loan to Korea. As such, they can't be sold off to Canadians; they have to go through the Civilian Marksmanship Program.

The same goes for the M1 Carbines and M14s.
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Not correct. Guns GIVEN to foreign military go to the CMP when returned (done by qty, not serial numbers). Guns PURCHASED as Foreign Military Sales can be, and often are, sold. We saw this with the Danish guns, after CMP got the correct number to cover off gifted arms, the balance were sold on the world market - many came to Canada. A mix of US and Italian-made guns.
 
There are several countries probably going to purge inventories of unneeded arms and if they are trying to get rid of them the price will more likely be in the $50 per rifle range. $50 times 100000 guns is a lot of profit off old junk.
 
badboybeeson said:
You guys crack me up!
There is only one importer to canada.
They are not the greek lot.
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I kind of suspected one of the other dealers might have brought up that point in the numerous threads titled KOREAN GARANDS. Nothing like the interweb for rumours and wild guesses.
 
If the Koreans could unload them all for 50-100 bucks each, why not. I don't see why they would demand 500 a piece or scrap em for nothing.
 
...ah futz. in the end I don't care if they come from butt love egypt - just give me one or two shooter grade or better rifles and i will be happy for life, as will be the scrap lead sellers and makers of fine gunpowder everywhere.
 
As someone who owns no milsurp rifles, may I know what's the appeal of these? I'm not averse to buying one, but why?

Are they more accurate than an SKS?
Is their ammo easier to find or cheaper (.30, right?)
Just the history behind them?

How many rounds can a magazine hold?
 
Magazines hold 8, ammo is much more expensive, accessible yes (30.06) it's precisely because you don't have any milsurps is why you don't understand the demand, they are very desireable as the price locally for them us very high so the possibility of getting surplus garands in for a reasonable price has people excited, I know I want one for my collection as well.
 
Fair enough. I ask because I lack understanding.
With regard to accuracy - I understand they are far superior to SKS
Also with regard to the 8 round mags - this is a semi auto centrefire - do the mags have to be pinned?

I'm sure I could google this, but you guys are so damn helpful so damn quickly, and anyway I gotta run and pick up my kids from school. Looking forward to the answer.... and maybe purchase one day??
 
Claven2 said:
Not correct. Guns GIVEN to foreign military go to the CMP when returned (done by qty, not serial numbers). Guns PURCHASED as Foreign Military Sales can be, and often are, sold. We saw this with the Danish guns, after CMP got the correct number to cover off gifted arms, the balance were sold on the world market - many came to Canada. A mix of US and Italian-made guns.
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This is 100 percent speculation on my part but I wonder if these were sold/loaned/rented/leased (to either Greece or Korea as the case may be) under the conditions of an End User certificate, which is common for international weapons sales between governments. If this is the case, I wonder if the End User cert mandates that the rifles must be returned to either the govt of the US or to a nation acceptable to the govt of the US. If the latter is the case, would the government of Canada issue the guarantees that the US would demand to prevent the rifles from being sold to an unfavourable country?

In other words the US will demand that the (US made) rifles given to Korea/Greece not be sold unless there are guarantees that they won't end up in Somalia being used against US interests.
 
cote_b said:
If the Koreans could unload them all for 50-100 bucks each, why not. I don't see why they would demand 500 a piece or scrap em for nothing.
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Exactly. It's a supply and demand thing. I have an add for 650 dollar sks from 1964! With inflation that is one expensive sks. If there are ships full of Garands coming there is no reason why a descent shooter should cost more than about 2-300 bucks. It's not good business sense to try and move thousands upon thousands of surplus rifles for what the collectors demand. People that spent lots of money on one are just mad the market may get flooded
 
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TJspeller said:
Fair enough. I ask because I lack understanding.
With regard to accuracy - I understand they are far superior to SKS
Also with regard to the 8 round mags - this is a semi auto centrefire - do the mags have to be pinned?

I'm sure I could google this, but you guys are so damn helpful so damn quickly, and anyway I gotta run and pick up my kids from school. Looking forward to the answer.... and maybe purchase one day??
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Because the gun employs an enbloc clip to load and fire, it cannot be easily converted to five rounds and was given an exemption from the five round rule. Hit up Youtube for some loading and firing videos, it'll all make sense once you see it in action. PING!
 
"...Guess that's why..." No, it's because King Obama stopped the sale.
"...Greek garands can be..." Carried much, but rarely, if ever, fired.
"...access to milsurp firearms is dwindling rapidly..." The supply of milsurp firearms is rapidly reaching none. The Third Workd Debating Club is busy trying to keep them out of the hands of their assorted freedom fighters at home.
 
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