The legality of AA .50 Beowulf Magazines?

I am comfortable that these PCV magazines are clearly marked and legal given our current legal interpretations. Second gen states clearly 5 round beowulf. If they get ruled against using stranger than fxxk lab rat logic, they can be pinned to 5 rounds of 5.56 should anyone deside they want to use them in this manner.

By the way I discovered only 14 rounds of 5.56 fit comfortably, 15th round is super tight, may loosen up as springs get used.
 
The rules seem pretty straight forward to me. Mags are marked .50 Beowulf. Whatever other calibre you decide to use them to feed, and how many, is irrelevant. The decision on this has already been made.
 
just like the LAR mags that clearly even the LEO's have no idea what the law is, at least if we get our rifles seized by using these or LAR amgs, we have a legal leg to stand on so we can get our property back.
 
mini15 said:

Here is what it boils down to.

If this is made by a company that makes USGI Rifle mags then the only thing different here is that it's stamped "Beowulf" on the bottom. The E-Lander Beowulf mags were deemed dual use. The reasoning behind that is that it was "dual use" since it was just an AR15 rifle mag stamped Beowulf.

So how is one legal and the other not. Other then the fact that one is OEM and made by the company that makes the cartridge, which gives it a little more legitimacy. Nothing seems different.
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Like I said before, the AA mags are made by AA specifically for sale and use with the .50 Beowulf Cartridge. They widen the feed lips and modify the follower and declare that they are NOT for use with any other calibre. Therefore they are "produced solely for the .50 Beowulf".

The E-Lander mags are straight up .223 mags. They won't even feed a .50 Beowulf round into the chamber (I've tried). The case gets stuck on the front lip of the mag because the magazine tube and follower are NOT modified to work with the .50 Beowulf cartridge.

Mark my words right now... The PCV mags are going to do nothing but cause problems for us. They are exploiting a loop hole in the system and they're going to single handedly force change on this matter. They're playing with fire and unfortunately, we're going to be the ones that get burned.
 
BooSSted said:
Mark my words right now... The PCV mags are going to do nothing but cause problems for us. They are exploiting a loop hole in the system and they're going to single handedly force change on this matter. They're playing with fire and unfortunately, we're going to be the ones that get burned.
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Because do you really think it was not the case with the current LAR-15 loophole ?
 
BooSSted said:
Like I said before, the AA mags are made by AA specifically for sale and use with the .50 Beowulf Cartridge. They widen the feed lips and modify the follower and declare that they are NOT for use with any other calibre. Therefore they are "produced solely for the .50 Beowulf".

The E-Lander mags are straight up .223 mags. They won't even feed a .50 Beowulf round into the chamber (I've tried). The case gets stuck on the front lip of the mag because the magazine tube and follower are NOT modified to work with the .50 Beowulf cartridge.

Mark my words right now... The PCV mags are going to do nothing but cause problems for us. They are exploiting a loop hole in the system and they're going to single handedly force change on this matter. They're playing with fire and unfortunately, we're going to be the ones that get burned.
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So, in other words they are poorly designed .50 Beowulf mags. Shucks,.... but wouldn't be the first time a company produced an inferior product. Maybe by the 3rd gen they will have sorted this out??? ;)


As to the getting burned by it, highly doubtful (as again there is always the option of a 3rd gen...) . More importantly, the mags only reliable hold 4 or 5 more of .223 than a LAR-15 mag,... now a .50 Beowulf pistol mag...... that could potentially be drastic enough of a change to stir the powers that be.
 
Has anyone tried using the PCV mags with actual Beowulf rounds, and do they work? If they don't work... that's a big problem. Curious to know if they do work with actual Beowulf rounds.

I would have thought the E Lander magazines were a better bet, but if the poster above is right and they don't even feed a Beowulf round then in my mind they are absolutely just a prohibited .223 magazine.
 
The elander mags did feed .50 beo just fine, the only people who truly know that for sure is the people at NR magazine, but they said that thier mags worked properly with .50 beowulf. That was thier baby, and I highly doubt that they would try to eff up thier chance at the big money by cutting corners, especially knowing full well that the RCMP were going to be looking over thier shoulder the whole way.
 
Interesting the greatest proponent to the AA mags and staunchest opponent to the PCV mags have profited from selling the AA mags at inflated prices. Coincident ???
 
burnaby said:
Interesting the greatest proponent to the AA mags and staunchest opponent to the PCV mags have profited from selling the AA mags at inflated prices. Coincident ???
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One can be sold on this forum and one can't. That should pretty well sum up this thread.

People can buy what they want. But I feel it's in their best interest to be informed before they make their purchase.
 
onetwentyish said:
The elander mags did feed .50 beo just fine, the only people who truly know that for sure is the people at NR magazine, but they said that thier mags worked properly with .50 beowulf. That was thier baby, and I highly doubt that they would try to eff up thier chance at the big money by cutting corners, especially knowing full well that the RCMP were going to be looking over thier shoulder the whole way.
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No, they didn't.

I'll PM you
 
MattRidge said:
Because do you really think it was not the case with the current LAR-15 loophole ?
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The LAR mags are not a loophole. They do exactly what they are advertised to do which is feed 10 rounds into an AR-15 pistol, the wording of the law states that you can use any legal magazine from any gun in any other gun that it will function in.
The problem BooSSted is pointing out is that the PCV mags are marketed as Beowulf mags but they won't function with Beowulf cartridges in an Beowulf rifle. Therefore exploiting a loophole that could lead to the powers that be rewriting the laws to correct the issue which may close the door on the use of pistol mags in our rifles.
 
cr5 said:
The LAR mags are not a loophole. They do exactly what they are advertised to do which is feed 10 rounds into an AR-15 pistol, the wording of the law states that you can use any legal magazine from any gun in any other gun that it will function in.
The problem BooSSted is pointing out is that the PCV mags are marketed as Beowulf mags but they won't function with Beowulf cartridges in an Beowulf rifle. Therefore exploiting a loophole that could lead to the powers that be rewriting the laws to correct the issue which may close the door on the use of pistol mags in our rifles.
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These magazines do not function with .50 Beowolf in a .50 Beowolf rifle?
But do function with .223 in a .223 rifle?
 
tiriaq said:
These magazines do not function with .50 Beowolf in a .50 Beowolf rifle?
But do function with .223 in a .223 rifle?
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I don't know about that for sure, I've never seen one of these polymer mags, just trying to decipher what the guys are saying and point out why if what is being said is true that the ones that don't function with the round they are advertised to be built for could end up getting the laws amended to make sure we can't create loopholes by simply branding something differently.

I only have one Beowulf mag and it's an AA mag that functions with Beowulf cartridges and just happens to also work reliably with 223 as well.
 
BooSSted said:
Like I said before, the AA mags are made by AA specifically for sale and use with the .50 Beowulf Cartridge. They widen the feed lips and modify the follower and declare that they are NOT for use with any other calibre. Therefore they are "produced solely for the .50 Beowulf".

The E-Lander mags are straight up .223 mags. They won't even feed a .50 Beowulf round into the chamber (I've tried). The case gets stuck on the front lip of the mag because the magazine tube and follower are NOT modified to work with the .50 Beowulf cartridge.

Mark my words right now... The PCV mags are going to do nothing but cause problems for us. They are exploiting a loop hole in the system and they're going to single handedly force change on this matter. They're playing with fire and unfortunately, we're going to be the ones that get burned.
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I'm not sure about that statement, a mag has to hold a cartridge to be a mag, it doesn't have to feed properly. So just holding a cartridge determines it's purpose, not feeding, since feeding requires another element to the legal equation, the firearm.
Since a mag is a legal entity without a firearm, therefore it does not need to successfully operate (feed) in a firearm to be a mag.
 
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