With the amount of us who recently bought receivers, completely oblivious to the workings of the M1 Garand, I figured we should be contained to one thread outside of a sponsors forum. This way we can (hopefully) post links (no hotlinking) to places to buy our parts. Ask your questions, give eachother a hand, share the wealth of knowledge, post up your build pics.
As of right now, the best places to get Garand parts are:
- Marstar
- Numrich (gunpartscorp.com/Manufacturers/USMilitary-33541/Rifles-42386/M1Garand-40101/PartsList-37106.htm).
- Northridge International (www.northridgeinc.com/store/index.cfm/c130)
- Sarco (www.e-sarcoinc.com/garand.aspx)
A note on Sarco
If ordering from the States, keep in mind the export restrictions:
Disassembly & Reassembly of the M1 Garand (skip to 1:40)
Barrelling an M1 Garand receiver (skip to 2:55 on first video)
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Trigger Group Assembly
Claven's guide to fitting Boyd's stocks
Helpful Links
CMP's Reassembly of M1 Garand - http://www.civilianmarksmanship.com/assemblyhtml/reassemblemain.html
M1Garand.com's Reassembly - http://www.m1-garand-rifle.com/m1-garand-assembly/assembly.php
M-1 Feeding Animation - http://www.garandflash.com/feeding.html
Suggested Reading
The M1 Garand Complete Assembly Guide - amazon.com/The-Garand-Complete-Assembly-Guide/dp/1888722134
M1 Garand Books - nicolausassociates.com/M1_Garand.htm
The M1 Garand Build Thread
- Thread starter Don Kael
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redshooter
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- Central Ontario
Simple answer, does it have a detachable magazine. A BM-59 has a detachable magazine, and the Garand does not. That should be easy to explain to even the dimmest badge in the country.
What other BM-59 parts work with a Garand, I have a receiver, perhaps it's time to do something with it...
What other BM-59 parts work with a Garand, I have a receiver, perhaps it's time to do something with it...
KotKotofeich
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- Ottawa Valley
I have a garand converted to detachable mags (from m14) - so not so simple
I don’t think you have to worry about that. Any LEO that knows what a BM59 is (suspect very few) will know that this is not one of ‘em.
Not really. It would perfectly legal for me to take an M1 Garand receiver and install all BM 59 parts, including modifying the receiver for the magazines. BM 59 receivers are marked as such, even if using modified US Garand receivers. “CAL. 30 M1” has been struck out and stamped 7.62 with Breda or Beretta markings added as well.
I’ve got the op rod and drop down gas cylinder from a BM 59. Just need one of the tri comps for a build. I’d stick with en blocs though.
maple_leaf_eh
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There is an easier way that to make a BM59. Read up on the Erquiaga:
https://www.m14forum.com/threads/em62-conversion.175350/
posted 5 Mar 2015 copied 9 July 2024
The Erquiaga Ams EM62 Modification of the M1 Garand is not at all like a BM 59 modification. The EM62 uses:
A new 7.62mm barrel 18 1/4 " long that is heavier than a Garand, M14 or BM59 barrel
The gas port is .087 inches in dia. and 12 inches forward from the rear of the barrel.
A new drop down type gas cylinder is used. It is pinned to the barred by two roll pins.
The top of the gas cylinder is dove tailed for a standard M1 front sight. The cylinder tube is 5 1/4" long and extends into the stock channel.
The op rod is straight and is 13" long overall. The op rod spring guide is patterned after an M14 op rod spring guide including using the end as the front magazine catch. The rear receiver legs are unmodified. The front legs are thinned but not V cut. The front of the receiver is opened to to accept the M14 mag. The bottom front of the receiver is also opened up to accept a magazine guide. This guide is held in by the follower pin. It is also milled to allow the recoil spring guide to pass thru.
A rear spacer block with the magazine catch and bolt hold open is utilized. This block has a rib on each side. The ribs allow the spacer block to slide into the enbloc clip grooves on the rear receiver legs. The ledges on the rear legs acts as stops and the trigger houses keeps it in place.
The only modifications to the trigger housing is being milled out for the magazine and a small clearance cut for the magazine catch.
The stock is modified with the magazine cut out, stock ferrule lip is removed and the ferrule is opened up to allow the gas cylinder tube to pass thru.
The bolt appears to be unmodified.
All in all it appears to be not a complex modification and the magazine is forward unlike the BM59.
https://www.m14forum.com/threads/em62-conversion.175350/
posted 5 Mar 2015 copied 9 July 2024
The Erquiaga Ams EM62 Modification of the M1 Garand is not at all like a BM 59 modification. The EM62 uses:
A new 7.62mm barrel 18 1/4 " long that is heavier than a Garand, M14 or BM59 barrel
The gas port is .087 inches in dia. and 12 inches forward from the rear of the barrel.
A new drop down type gas cylinder is used. It is pinned to the barred by two roll pins.
The top of the gas cylinder is dove tailed for a standard M1 front sight. The cylinder tube is 5 1/4" long and extends into the stock channel.
The op rod is straight and is 13" long overall. The op rod spring guide is patterned after an M14 op rod spring guide including using the end as the front magazine catch. The rear receiver legs are unmodified. The front legs are thinned but not V cut. The front of the receiver is opened to to accept the M14 mag. The bottom front of the receiver is also opened up to accept a magazine guide. This guide is held in by the follower pin. It is also milled to allow the recoil spring guide to pass thru.
A rear spacer block with the magazine catch and bolt hold open is utilized. This block has a rib on each side. The ribs allow the spacer block to slide into the enbloc clip grooves on the rear receiver legs. The ledges on the rear legs acts as stops and the trigger houses keeps it in place.
The only modifications to the trigger housing is being milled out for the magazine and a small clearance cut for the magazine catch.
The stock is modified with the magazine cut out, stock ferrule lip is removed and the ferrule is opened up to allow the gas cylinder tube to pass thru.
The bolt appears to be unmodified.
All in all it appears to be not a complex modification and the magazine is forward unlike the BM59.
KotKotofeich
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Ottawa Valley
Comparison with a Garand would be great. My interest would be mostly with a shorter barrel and drop down gas cylinder. Magazine conversions are cool, but not something I’d consider for myself.
ETA: like a BM62 but keep the en bloc clips from the Garand.
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KotKotofeich
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Ottawa Valley
Oh, I see, I misunderstood I was talking about the mag conversion...
"The op rod spring guide is patterned after an M14 op rod spring guide including using the end as the front magazine catch. The rear receiver legs are unmodified. The front legs are thinned but not V cut. The front of the receiver is opened to to accept the M14 mag. The bottom front of the receiver is also opened up to accept a magazine guide. This guide is held in by the follower pin. It is also milled to allow the recoil spring guide to pass thru."
Can show that part but not gas cylinder mods... Sorry!
I was talking about the mag conversion..."The op rod spring guide is patterned after an M14 op rod spring guide including using the end as the front magazine catch. The rear receiver legs are unmodified. The front legs are thinned but not V cut. The front of the receiver is opened to to accept the M14 mag. The bottom front of the receiver is also opened up to accept a magazine guide. This guide is held in by the follower pin. It is also milled to allow the recoil spring guide to pass thru."
Can show that part but not gas cylinder mods... Sorry!
No worries, I’m more interested in “tanker” style conversions. Make the Garand as short as legally possible, but still reliable. I’ve got the BM59 parts (minus tricolour) for it and I understand that a Garand barrel can be used with a little work.
It’s still a neat conversion. I saw your bumped thread, very cool.
It’s still a neat conversion. I saw your bumped thread, very cool.
