The Modern Sporter is now .......?
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There would have to be charges laid before this would end up before a judge.
I don't think any leo (other than the ones who are now in political positions) is interested in laying charges for possession or use of a modern sporter at this point.
No disrespect to some LEO's but in my experience the average one has limited gun knowledge at best and before you could even explain to them what they are looking at they would assume it's an ar15 and charge you accordingly as well as seize the rifle.
sillymike
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While I have to agree with that (Because of work/hobby/family. I happen to hang around with LEO and game wardens) They're also good guys (and gals) and they hate paperwork (or charging people) as much as possible.
- But just to be on the safe side, if going into the wood/range with something that could be considered "scary"... I gotten into the habit of either having a copy of the FRT and/or some other documentation
Anybody else notice that the RCMP are controlled by Ontario, yet Ontario has its OWN police force? 2 questions
Why do they not use the RCMP? And if they dont, why are we being subjected to the law enforcement of another province? Kenny needs to hurry up with the Alberta Police force and kick out the Revolutionary Communist Military Police.
Why do they not use the RCMP? And if they dont, why are we being subjected to the law enforcement of another province? Kenny needs to hurry up with the Alberta Police force and kick out the Revolutionary Communist Military Police.
You do NOT want a provincial police force.
It doesn't solve any problems that "may" be present, on the contrary, it just compounds them. Ask anyone who lives in a province with a PPF. You'll be replacing one entity that doesn't work for you with another one that still won't work for you, yet the other one will still have rule of law over your territory. It just doesn't make sense.
It's counterproductive and wastes $$$. If you don't separate from Canada, you will still be under RCMP rule even if you get a PPF. Like you said, Ontario has RCMP and their own PPF and it's a cluster####, why would Alberta end up any different?
Separate first, then make your own PF to your liking later.
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Ok. So what is the deal with the MS? The FRT was changed, yet I still hear guys talking about thier MS builds and fixes to issues they are having. I see some up for grabs in the EE and the one I put money down on in January is ready! So are they on the ban list or has the court challenge caused a temporary reversal of the FRT change while it goes to the courts? Did I miss something?
They have been prohibited by the RCMP in the FRT (not named or prohibited in the OIC). The FRT is not law. ATRS is continuing to build them and people are still buying them.
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People need to understand this : nobody knows what’s gonna happen if a LEO catch’s you with a MS and decides to do something. Some people are ready to keep using it, and some others just can’t take the risk for multiple reasons. No matter if ATRS are still making and selling them, and no matter if FRT isn’t law to you, here are the facts. Call your CFO and ask him this question : is the MS prohibited? He’s gonna tell you YES. When a LEO isn’t sure about a firearm’s classification, he calls its CFO and receive the exact same answer, yea it’s prohibited. So this is all gonna have to be solve in court.
BigUglyMan
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LEO will check the FRT. Then they will arrest and charge. On release you will likely be prohibited from possessing any firearm, ammunition or explosive. Firearms, ammo, and explosives in your home will be seized prior to your release as it will almost certainly be written as a condition of release. NWEST will prepare a report that will be accepted as gospel by Crown. In a year or so one of two things will happen. One, Crown will drop the charges, likely after offering you a deal to plead to a lesser offence. If they don't offer you a plea deal, and if they don't drop the charges then we get to the fun part...a trial. There will be a Judge who decides the case. You will be out anywhere from $20K-$50K in legal fees. And you may still end up convicted which means that you would have to appeal. In the mean time there will be a forfeiture orger made and all your firearms and ammunition will be disposed of (read that as destroyed...it's not pretty). Then you will have another $30K or so in legal fees to appeal the matter which, again, may result in a loss.
BigUglyMan
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That pretty much sums it up completely at this time.
LE IS treating the FRT as if it were law, which it isn't ofcourse. We are in for some interesting times in the near future.
I am locking this thread for the time being as it seems so many people want to help the wrong side of our legal action with their posts. I am not saying deliberately but the feds have a large presence on this forum of late and many guys do not use a single IQ point before they post stuff that could be very damaging to our action.
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