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Yes it is standard equipment
The Modern Varmint rifle
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Yes it is standard equipment
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- calgary alberta
Don't hold your breathe.
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- calgary alberta
Same reason AR15 parts cost less than AR10 parts. More availability and lower cost in general.
We can escalate the pricing upwards if requested.
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Not sure as to when, now it is in the hands of the SFSS?RCMP
No piston systems will be offered.
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With a 18.6" heavy contour stainless barrel 8 lbs.
Once we get time to build more with the barrel options we intend to offer we can advise weights. Much will depend on the furniture as well. I would suspect a just over 6 lb rifle could be built however.
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Yes IF it were simply an alternate cartridge to an existing rifle. The problem is that the 223 is scaled down and uses a smaller mag, ergo it is a different gun, despite being identical but smaller. This then makes it a different model, so an inspection is required, not by law I want to point out as the FRT is NOT law, but it does make everyone safer from persecution.
The legal system when it comes to firearms is so badly broken and perverted, don't even try to figure it out, you will only go insane, or NDP.
Apples and Oranges. Those three were not designed to be precision hunting rifles. I'm sure the MV will be high quality and likely more accurate, but when SHTF I will definitely grab one of the other three.
Did you mean to say close to 2500? Because the MH is already 3500 to start, and the MV is slated to be less expensive(though not sure by how much). At a thousand dollars more expensive(if it was 3500), I cant see it bleeding off too many buyers, any more than the Tavor is cutting into the T97's market, or the XCR 7.62x39 cutting into the VZ58's.
Would dearly love to see it closer in price to the other NR .223's, would be great to see an accurate canadian product really take off.
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THAT is a viable option that we are considering.
I have to admit, a 30 cal ( 300 blackout ) MV would be very interesting, and It could lead to having all 3 in the series of modern rifles in 30 cal when the magnum arrives.
But in all honesty, I'd most likely stick to the 223 simply for ammunition availability.
I think sticking to a single caliber makes sense from a business point of view, as 90 percent or more would elect to use 223 and othercalibers may create headaches that aren't worth the time.
But in all honesty, I'd most likely stick to the 223 simply for ammunition availability.
I think sticking to a single caliber makes sense from a business point of view, as 90 percent or more would elect to use 223 and othercalibers may create headaches that aren't worth the time.
If its priced anywhere near one of the current, high end, non restricted semi auto rifles (Tavor, XCR etc) I will sell my both my NR .223 and My AR and buy one FOR SURE. After looking at the MH... its just a beauty.
Not sure if this has been asked or not, but are the bolts interchangeable between the AR platform and the MH platform?
Not sure if this has been asked or not, but are the bolts interchangeable between the AR platform and the MH platform?
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- calgary alberta
I seriously doubt we will offer a 300 Blackout or anything but 223 and potentially 204 as they ARE varmint calibers. After all we are NOT making a weapon of war, it is a purpose built VARMINT rifle. The biggest reason for 223 only is liability as there are many cases of guys mistakenly loading 300 into 223 barrels and blowing up the guns, some of which have resulted in injuries and then lawsuits. Simply not making 1 solves that problem all together.
Obviously we can not stop guys from changing a barrel, but it nicely colors us off of the liability page if it is not a factory offering.
Also to keep our assembly nightmare to a minimum, simply trying to keep all the guns ordered correct and made as ordered has become a major undertaking. We now see the genius of Ford and his any color as long as it is black plan.
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- calgary alberta
The MH employs a standard DPMS AR10 style bolt , the carrier is significantly different. This will be the same in the MV but with an AR15 bolt .
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We have used the 223 Wylde chambering reamers on 99% of all the 223 rifles we have built over the last several years. we do have a 223 Remington "match" reamer as well but only use it on bolt rifles and advise those who insist that is really is not the best option anymore.
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Nope. But if you can visualize a Modern Hunter and imagine it as 30% smaller you would get the exact picture.
Check out the photos of the MH in that thread, all that has changed is the size. I suppose 1 could also see what a Modern Magnum will look like if they increased the screen size of a photo of the MH
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The rifles will come with a fixed lo pro gas block specifically engineered for the rifle. A person "could" retrofit an adjustable gas block should they wish to and deal with the failure to feed and hassle attached to adjustable gas blocks, and void the warranty by making a "Frankengun" if they wish. We have no control over that.
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- calgary alberta
My thoughts exactly.
Yohann160 We are NOT building a military rifle and have gone to great lengths and cost to distance our rifles from a RESTRICTED military rifle. Therefore the specs will be significantly better than Milspec, but not all Milspec stuff will fit.
You do understand that Milspec is simply the minimum specification to meet military standards. A foreign military standard I might add as most of this nonsense is based on US military spec.
I think what some of us are wondering is whether we will be able to keep making the rifle ours down the road by upgrading things like hand guards (hence my earlier question on barrel threading) as attachment standards have evolved over the past couple of years and I for one would see a Modern Varminter as a long-term investment. I would want to know that the barrel nut threading and gas block sizing won't prevent me from upgrading to whatever comes after keymod and M-LOK.
I certainly respect and appreciate the effort that ATR is making to bring the MH and MV platforms to us - I'm very keen to make an MV my first big ticket firearms purchase.
Just my 2 cents.
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- calgary alberta
We do not know, seeing as we do not deal with knights the only way to find out is to buy 1 and try it on our gun. If it fits great , if not you have a fore end to sell. Given knights propensity for proprietary hardware it is hard to say, our upper will employ a standardized AR15 barrel nut, and standard spec top rail height if that helps you determine anything.
At this point we are trying to determine which furniture within the manufacturers we can supply product from will fit. Those manufacturers who we do not do business with are not being contemplated for our option list of furniture.
Once we have the list of options we will be posting this info in a build sheet as we have done with our Modern Hunter on our website.
