The most "Anti-Hunting" Province??

umchorn2

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After living and hunting extensively in Manitoba and Saskatchewan, there are only two outcomes when it comes to hunting. Success and failure...winning and losing. Every time I purchase a tag my expectations are to come out with the animal I want, or none at all - not just any animal will do. Every bullet is part of a carefully chosen management decision, with the result being a clean kill and will affect future wildlife opportunities and outcomes in some measurable way. Success is important to me and I want to optimize my chances of success. However, Manitoba and Saskatchewan have very different approaches to wildlife management, which highly affects my chances of encountering and interacting with wildlife and achieving success.

Manitoba
1) Higher proportion of federal and provincial land. Approximately 85% is "public" land, although most is accessible only by air plane or waterway.
2) Land is generally less expensive and can be bought in larger blocks since it is less per acre than similar land in Saskatchewan
3) Landowners cannot utilize private resources to create preserves and introduce species or animals of their choosing, thus tailoring their experience or customizing their hunt.
4) Baiting and feeding wildlife is illegal with the exception of bears, which has its own restrictions. This reduces ones chances of encountering animals in a setting that is advantageous to the hunter.
5) Invests very little money into conservation and wildlife management. Until the creation of the Wildlife Enhancement Fund in 2014 which takes $5 from each hunting license sold and invests a portion into conservation and wildlife management there was no investment in conservation even though the activity directly generates well over 100 million dollars annually for the province.
6) Landowner draw tags available for resident landowners only. Landowners who reside outside of the province yet maintain productive wildlife property are unable to draw for wildlife (ex. landowner elk) even though their properties may contain healthy, growing populations which provide opportunities for others. Thus there is no incentive to maintain and conserve habitat because such non productive/non profitable assets cannot be profitable.

Saskatchewan
1) Nearly 100% private land ownership in the southern half of the province. Approximately 40% of the province is private land.
2) Higher land prices mean large parcels needed for protecting, attracting and improving wildlife is prohibitively expensive.
3) Landowners may create and maintain a wildlife preserve on their own property and may generally introduce the species and animals of their choosing, thus ensuring a sustainable, continuous supply of wildlife.
4) Baiting or feeding of cervids (deer, elk, moose) is allowed, thus hunters have an opportunity to see many animals in a location of their choosing and the choice of which to shoot under carefully controlled conditions, while the animals are in a calm state, rather than haphazardly crossing paths with sparsely distributed populations of animals spread over many miles geographically and across many individual privately owned parcels.
5) Invests millions of dollars annually into conservation and fisheries related initiatives and has done so since 1970 (hunting component) and 1984 (fishing component) whereby 30% of hunting and fishing sales revenue go into the Fish and Wildlife Development Fund. However, this number is still only fractionally proportionate when compared to public funds used to subsidize agriculture and ranching.
6) Has the Saskatchewan Wildlife Federation, the largest organized wildlife membership in Canada to represent the interests of hunters and anglers. Although they are not as well funded as many American organizations like Ducks Unlimited, they represent a significant improvement above an individual when it comes to voicing concerns and grievances on behalf of sportsmen and working towards making policy changes provincially.

All provinces must balance an over abundance of hunters with an undersupply of wildlife. Each has to manage scarce resources to meet growing demand for wildlife consumption and competing land uses like agriculture and ranching which generally decrease suitable wildlife habitat. Ultimately wildlife and it's management will fail until governments allow individuals to take a greater role in it's ownership and management. Until such time wildlife will be the tragedy of the commons that it continues to be. Undervalued and over utilized, and in a world where global pressures are breaking down and selling ecosystems at wholesale prices, when has there ever been a better time to take ownership of and assume responsibility over our resources than us? Afterall, wildlife belongs to the people of each province doesn't it? Which province will succeed in protecting, attracting, and improving habitat and wildlife? Why make things harder for those of us that seek to protect, attract, improve and increase habitat and wildlife in both quality and quantity?
 
Page 21 of the 2015 Manitoba Hunting guide reads..."It is illegal to feed, or place attractants for deer, moose or elk in the following GHA's 5, 6, 6A, 11, 12, 13, 13A, 18, 18A, 18B, 18C, part of 22 (west of PTH 33), 23, 23A, & 27". Basically the western border of Manitoba and Saskatchewan and bordering Duck Mountain and Riding Mountain National Park.
 
Page 21 of the 2015 Manitoba Hunting guide reads..."It is illegal to feed, or place attractants for deer, moose or elk in the following GHA's 5, 6, 6A, 11, 12, 13, 13A, 18, 18A, 18B, 18C, part of 22 (west of PTH 33), 23, 23A, & 27". Basically the western border of Manitoba and Saskatchewan and bordering Duck Mountain and Riding Mountain National Park.

That's because of CWD concerns coming from SK and TB around Riding Mountain Park. It's also in these areas that hunters have to submit samples from elk and deer. In the rest of the province, you can feed.
 
Sounds to me like you are looking for the European approach to Wildlife Management which takes the average working person out of the game. Only the wealthy and elite can afford to or acquire permission to hunt in Europe. No thanks. I'll continue on the path I am currently on. Some of the monies generated from my license acquisitions goes into the conservation pot. It may not be as much as I'd like but at least some is making it. As well I contribute privately through club memberships, fund raising drives, dinners etc.. That works for me, even if it means game in areas I cannot gain access to. Not the end of the world. I shoot enough game each season to please me. I'm not greedy nor do I feel I am owed a kill simply because I purchased a tag/license. Take your European model to Afghanistan.....go raise goats to kill!!
 
The result of private land ownership and proper management of public resources...hopefully these pictures of my 4.5 yr old and 3.5 year old come through. The deer living on the property have no clue my taxes give them the best habitat possible and quality deer management based on age structuring has enabled them a couple good years to pass along their genes and kept them alive this long. The 6x5 will be old enough to shoot next year, at 5.5 years old. The 5x5 is 3.5. He will be a shooter 2 more years down the road. Looks like photobucket may be acting up again, but what can you expect from a free service...



 
Holy fruck...........I go out in the bush to have fun......with or without feathers, fur or fish.
The cutting of tags or plucking of feathers or fillet-aying of fish is a bonus.

Jeeeeeeeeeeesh........................f:P:2:
 
My mistake its the same high fence advocate that tried to push his unwanted high fence hunting agenda on Manitoba before

As above get stuffed
 
Not this guy again.....

So if you got your way, would you ever get off your horse to retrieve your private game, or have a bunch of "lower class" folk run and pick it up for you.

Baron umchorn2!! Duke of The Pas, Commander of the Lake Winnipeg Navy, etc....etc....
 
Not one of the people who have responded to my post have answered a single question I have asked in my last paragraph. Are British Columbia and Saskatchewan the only provinces in the future that will have any wildlife and decent hunting? I grew up in Manitoba and plan to acquire more land before prices climb to levels seen in the other western provinces. I have had great success on public lands but after seeing or researching how things have been done elsewhere I have concluded that there are other ways to manage resources that can provide more opportunites and better experiences for all.

This isn't a rich man's hobby yet, but if we don't take matters into our own hands it's going to be. The thinking that your $40 tag and $50 wildlife membership is making any sort of difference is a fallacy. I only want the same rights to use resources I have bought and protected in some of the same ways that farmers and ranchers have to make a living off grain and cattle. And no I don't want things to be like Europe, which has 742.5 million people as of 2013 and about the same land mass as Canada, which has 35.16 million people. Europe has 20 times our country's population. How are you going to draw tags with that that kind of hunting pressure? I would much rather see my fellow Canadians who have worked hard to acquire their land and act as good stewards benefit before I would submit to a draw where folks who have little vested interest in wildlife or its conservation think they have an equal right to hunt. Time to face reality. The provinces that bring in the most money from conservation and hunting are going to have the best opportunities and correspondingly the best chance of success.
 
So based on living in two provinces you have all the answers? ####ing amateur. Talk to me when you've lived more than half and can form an argument more based in facts.
 
Canada is the second biggest country geographically in the world with a population of only about 35 million....there should be lots of places , and game , for everyone to hunt without creating game farms....
 
God.... If I had to hunt like that I wouldn't bother......

Since when is Manitoba a western province anyways?

Having lived in Ontario, Alberta, New Brunswick and now Manitoba it's more western than middle or east.

At the very least it's the end of the middle of Canada or the beginning of the west.

I haven't hunted here yet, but the Maritime provinces are not particularly hunting friendly.
 
Alberta is pretty good for hunting.
Baiting is restricted... but can be used for bears and predator species.
Getting tags is easy; you can get 4 deer a year without a draw tag and up to 7 with draw tags.
I don't think as a land owner you can get special tags for your own land. Outfitters can get a good chunk though.
Species avalible for hunting is large... and you would be suprised what tags you can get without a draw (cow moose, big horned sheep) if your willing to drive out to a remote wmu.
Seasons and are generous in length to give hunter a better chance at success.
There is considerable investment in conservation.
 
Alberta is pretty good for hunting.
Baiting is restricted... but can be used for bears and predator species.
Getting tags is easy; you can get 4 deer a year without a draw tag and up to 7 with draw tags.
I don't think as a land owner you can get special tags for your own land. Outfitters can get a good chunk though.
Species avalible for hunting is large... and you would be suprised what tags you can get without a draw (cow moose, big horned sheep) if your willing to drive out to a remote wmu.
Seasons and are generous in length to give hunter a better chance at success.
There is considerable investment in conservation.

It's a pretty good gig we got. I especially like the length of seasons!
 
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