The most high performance and affordable catridge???!

OP - not sure how to hit all of your points - least powder, most velocity, etc. - but I believe has been previously attempted - might want to investigate a 25-45 Sharps or a 6.8 - I think both are simply larger diameter bullets in a .223 Rem case - were apparently used for many things, including metal silhouette shooting (?) Both have been used in AR style rifles adapted for them, so should be real straight forward with a single shot or bolt action rifle?
 
You can buy cartridges for common calibers pretty cheap across the board. Herter's ammo is super cheap. So is Federal 'blue box' Classic. So man up and get a .300 Win Mag, that way you can't complain about velocity or energy or cost. It will kill anything extremely dead at 100-200 yards.

But seriously, 6.5 Creedmoor or .308.
 
You can buy cartridges for common calibers pretty cheap across the board. Herter's ammo is super cheap. So is Federal 'blue box' Classic. So man up and get a .300 Win Mag, that way you can't complain about velocity or energy or cost. It will kill anything extremely dead at 100-200 yards.

But seriously, 6.5 Creedmoor or .308.

Too funny! My 338 Win Mag or the 375 H&H will kill things MUCH DEADER than that 300 Win Mag at 100 to 200 yards - my brother and I have been arguing this for 25 years - tongue in cheek and often with some brown liquid involved - he bought a 300 Win Mag about when I got the 338 Win Mag - both are Model 70 rifles... Our Dad used a 30-06, since about 1948, and my son uses my older 308 Win. I never did own a Creedmoor of any variety...
 
there was a huge thread on this, but it was about recoil, powder and fps comparison ill see if I can find it, I think todbartell (spelling?) made the thread and all the chamberings listed were done on quickload
it showed powder vs bullet weight vs fps vs recoil so you could see the "efficiency" of the listed cartridge

its this thread, i didn't reread it but it may have the info yo are looking for
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1848987-The-most-efficient-hunting-cartridges
 
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You read a request like this, and you gain a deeper understanding of the Al Bundy character in Married with Children!

When some chick comes in to buy a pair of shoes that are big and roomy on the inside, and small and dainty on the outside! LOL!
 
Too funny! My 338 Win Mag or the 375 H&H will kill things MUCH DEADER than that 300 Win Mag at 100 to 200 yards - my brother and I have been arguing this for 25 years - tongue in cheek and often with some brown liquid involved - he bought a 300 Win Mag about when I got the 338 Win Mag - both are Model 70 rifles... Our Dad used a 30-06, since about 1948, and my son uses my older 308 Win. I never did own a Creedmoor of any variety...

The challenge with .338 and .375 with the above criteria is cost - even the cheaper .338/.375 ammo options are still considerably more than cheap .300 Win Mag in general, you've got to reload to really get you economics right on the brutes. Same would go for the glorious .35 Whelen and 9.3x62 - sledgehammers for sure but the economics suck.
 
Too funny! My 338 Win Mag or the 375 H&H will kill things MUCH DEADER than that 300 Win Mag at 100 to 200 yards - my brother and I have been arguing this for 25 years - tongue in cheek and often with some brown liquid involved - he bought a 300 Win Mag about when I got the 338 Win Mag - both are Model 70 rifles... Our Dad used a 30-06, since about 1948, and my son uses my older 308 Win. I never did own a Creedmoor of any variety...

yup, I've been accused of having Magnumitise, have 7mmRM 300WM, 338WM, 325WSM, and 458WM, those are powder burning dragons, however the first gun I normally grab for hunting is the 25-06.

I'm really contemplating the 257 Roberts, falls right between the 243/6mm and the 6.5mm offerings. And being 25 Caliber it is inherently a ###y thing. :)


but first I feel I need something in 357 Herret :)



edited - thanks BH my brain fart
 
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250 Roberts

I believe you mean the 257 Roberts???

It's a great cartridge, providing you get one with a 1-10 minimum twist rate.

If you get one of the rifles with a 1-12 or 1-14 twist rate, you will likely have to be happy with bullets of 100 grain maximum

Many of the earlier rifles have 1-14 twist rates. Same goes for the 250 Savage, which can be loaded to very similar velocities, with just about any given bullet weight.

In modern rifles, such as Winchester M70, Remington 700 and even the Savage 99 or custom 98 Mauser actions. Both cartridges can be loaded very close to the factory specs of the 25-06 in any available bullet weight.

I sold the Remingto Mod 700 Classic I had in 250 Savage a couple of years ago. But I did retain the Remington 700 in 257 Roberts.

The ease of converting 7x57 cases, if needed, is just a great option as it works for the 6mm Remington as well.

That was off topic.

OP, cheap is in the eye of the beholder.

Wanting to shoot ''cheap'' at this point in time?????? You're a bit late to the show. Maybe two years late.

One cartridge that will do everything you list, is the 7.62x39.

There are all sorts of options for different rifles that the round is chambered in and depending on your budget, which from the gist of your post is limited, quality can be mediocre to high end.

Howa, Zastava and Ruger, to name a few make very decent bolt action rifles, chambered for the cartridge. All are strong and the cartridges can be loaded much hotter than book specs, without issues.

The 7.62x39 will duplicate 30-30 specs, even with 150 grain bullets.

I fnally settled on the Howa 1500 mini action, after trying the Ruger and Zastava, which I found both to be very rough with poor triggers. Bit more expensive but well worth it as it shoots all bullet weights from 100 grain .308 diameter to 150 grain of the same diameter

The bore is .309 and it handles bullets of .312 diameter, up to 150 grains without issues and shoots all of them acceptably for hunting Deer out to 250 yards.
 
Too funny! My 338 Win Mag or the 375 H&H will kill things MUCH DEADER than that 300 Win Mag at 100 to 200 yards - my brother and I have been arguing this for 25 years - tongue in cheek and often with some brown liquid involved - he bought a 300 Win Mag about when I got the 338 Win Mag - both are Model 70 rifles... Our Dad used a 30-06, since about 1948, and my son uses my older 308 Win. I never did own a Creedmoor of any variety...

NOW that it really TOO FUNNY ! lmffao - RJ
 
7mm-08 - higher velocity than 308, less recoil than 308, better long-range ballistics than 308, more versatile than 308, and enough energy for deer, moose, and elk. Took me a long time to believe in this cartridge as I was a 308 fan. 7mm-08 in a carbine rifle, you'll thank me. Mine just happens to be a Winchester Model 70 Compact, but you can find similar from other manufacturers (ie: Remington Model Seven).
 
OP: Did your criteria changed between post #1 and post #11?

Post #1 seemed to be about deer hunting, max distance 200.
But post #11 mentions long range and target shooting.

So it looks like the expenses portion of your question is mostly about target shooting long range. Hunting only requires one or two rounds per deer and you have that already well covered with your .308's.

For long range target shooting, the heavier 6.5 and medium 7mm bullets target bullets will serve very well. For deer hunting the medium to heavy 6.5 and medium 7mm hunting bullets at 200 yards loaded properly will have good velocity for bullet expansion, and enough energy.

I suggest looking at the ballistics and powder charge charts for 7mm-08 and 260 Rem. (I shoot a .260 Rem for target and LR). Both are .308 cartridges necked down to 7mm and 6.5 respectively. Both can use some of the same powders as your .308's. Savings in powder volume is marginal to nil since case volumes are the same, and it will also depend on bullet selection. And 6.5 and 7mm bullets might not be cheaper than .308 bullets.

6.5 CM has slightly smaller case volume than .260 Rem, thinking about powder costs, but performance I am guessing should be similar.

I think my next 6.5 rifle is going to be chambered in 6.5x47 Lapua, for purpose of PRS type shooting, and long range target shooting (and it can hunt deer with 130 to 140 gr bullets). Its case volume is slightly smaller than 260 Rem/7mm-08 and 6.5 CM, so there may be a slight savings in powder costs, although its close to negligible.

All that said, the PRS guys and many LR target shooters are using the many 6mm cartridges (.243 Win, 6 BR, 6 Dasher, 6 XC, the list of wildcats is almost endless), which will consume less powder. The 6mm bullets give up some weight for resisting wind, but they make up for it in higher velocity. Once I get my 6.5x47 Lapua settled in, I might get another barrel in 6x47 Lapua and use the same FL bushing die but with smaller bushings, and same seater die.

But I would use my Sako Finnlight .270 Win to shoot deer, because I like it so much. :)
 
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