the new winchester model 94

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any opinions on these, wife wants one im trying to convice her to go for the marlin for cost reason's. I just cant belive the new m94's cost 1100. are they worth it anyone got one.
 
I don't have a 94 but do have the 92 and have looked at the 94s. They are superbly built and are worth the asking price, IMHO. My 92 is as well built if not better than the 7 or 8 originals I have, the other option would be to buy an original pre 64 94 and you would have a good rifle for less money..............maybe.
 
How do you like the stock on your 92. The few I have played with left me a bit wanting especially for $1100. The fit seemed to be good but was just seemed doll and boring. I compare the Winchester stocks to my other levers that I have in the similar price.
 
Most important is what your wife WANTS. If she's anything like 99% of consumers, she will not be completely happy with the Marlin and will "what-if" that purchase for a long time wondering what the 94 she REALLY wanted would have been like. I have both, and prefer the Marlin, but that's me.
You have the great fortune of a wife who enjoys guns. Indulge her with the purchase of one of these rifles. Also, people can talk about getting her a pre-64, which is fine, but what if she wants a NEW rifle, not used? What if she wants one that's easy to scope? And before people chime in with how scopes are an abomination on a levergun, re-read the first sentence. It's HER gun.
 
try looking at some of the '94 commemoratives for sale. She might like the plating and half decent wood, and you would be ahead by 600.00!
 
You should take a look at the mossberg 464....very similar to the 94 in how it looks and operates and i hear the new ones don't have the extracter problems anymore. at $ 400 it's worth a look.
 
Kilo Charlie said:
What if she wants one that's easy to scope?
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They aren't new or as nice as the pre-64s, but the later Angle Eject 94s can be easily scoped and you can probably find one that's better built than one of the current Remington-made Marlins.
 
freddyfour said:
How do you like the stock on your 92. The few I have played with left me a bit wanting especially for $1100. The fit seemed to be good but was just seemed doll and boring. I compare the Winchester stocks to my other levers that I have in the similar price.
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With a considerable amount of moving parts all made on relatively new machinery 1100 is a good price for a well built gun of such a design. At 1100 you shouldn't expect AA Grade wood without paying more. I am trying to understand to what you are comparing that you would expect more?
The marlin 336 is an easier design to manufacture and they are building them on 50+ year old equipment that owes the factory nothing. They're QAC standards have dropped as of recent days and the wood on them is normally nothing special if not bordering on Beech.
The new model 94 isn't intended to market like they were before the Winchester plant closed: selling in a bucket or a pail. They are intended for the more refined person looking for a modern and quality representative of a 120 year old design. I think everything about the new 94 represents that well including the price.
 
My 92 doesn't have any outstanding figure in the stock but is a good grade of WALNUT, which is getting harder to find in stocks these days. I have owned several marlins and seen many more and have yet to see one with any figure what-so-ever, like rem338 says so plain as to be comparable to beech. In my 70 some odd old Win levers, I have maybe one or two that show any figure, just good solid well grained walnut is the rule and the new ones are the same. I have seen several of the new 94s with what I would call decent grain and a cut above the norm, a little figure or swirl and the inletting is as good or better than my pre 64s. I also agree with Kilo Charlie, if she wants a new rifle, then a new rifle it should be, and I would never recommend a Marlin or Mossberg (God forbid) over the new 94. This is a case where you really are getting what you pay for. Something else no one has yet mentioned, the Marlin does not feel or handle like the 94, two totally different feeling guns in my opinion. The Marlin is much thicker and clubbier feeling, big fat forend and much fatter through the grip, I have never felt the affinity to the Marlin that I do to the old Winchesters. I love lever guns and their numbers in my vault approach 100 and not one has a different name than Winchester, I will say, I do like the old straight stock, schnabel forend Savages too, in 250 and 300 but I have decided to focus on Wins and have had to check myself from straying several times when a nice old Savage showed up. But I digress, buy the nice lady a new 94 and she will have a high quality rifle she can be proud of as can her daughters and grandaughters, if that is to be. You are getting value for your money in the new Miroku Winchesters, far more in my opinion than the Ubertis or Piettas or Pedersolis of the same cost or more. This is more of an apples to apples comparison than Marlin or Mossberg.
 
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A 100 eh.............. do ya have a nice old 94 SRC in 25-35 in there you want to sell me;)

To rem338win point, I believe that plant has been making the 92's for 30+ years. Not as long as say Marlin has the 336 but still wouldn't call the machining new. Also found the Brownings 92's (Miroku made) came with nicer finished stocks. I'm not bashing the Winchesters, hell I'm sure I will own one in the not so distant future. Just wish they spent a little more effort on finish, that's all.
 
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For $1100, no F-ing way. Buy a walnut stock from Boyds if you really hate the one that a Marlin comes with or go with a used Win 94 or Marlin.
 
As well forgot to mention the mossberg 464 marinecote w/ gray laminate stock... my wife really liked it, but you should take my opinion with a grain of salt i'm the type of guy that owns savage and henry lever's!lol
 
Kilo Charlie said:
Most important is what your wife WANTS. If she's anything like 99% of consumers, she will not be completely happy with the Marlin and will "what-if" that purchase for a long time wondering what the 94 she REALLY wanted would have been like. I have both, and prefer the Marlin, but that's me.
You have the great fortune of a wife who enjoys guns. Indulge her with the purchase of one of these rifles. Also, people can talk about getting her a pre-64, which is fine, but what if she wants a NEW rifle, not used? What if she wants one that's easy to scope? And before people chime in with how scopes are an abomination on a levergun, re-read the first sentence. It's HER gun.
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Cheers! thats sound advise.
 
I have a remlin xlr and a new win 94 japanese. The marlin is simpler and better imo and nicer to shoot but if she wants the straight stock and full mag look thats what youl have to get its a nice gun except the wood is almost unfinished i have the takedown which is nice for cleaning but a little more expensive again
 
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