The ONE rifle for all.
- Thread starter ton45
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This is what i found works on deer!
Hi Ton45, considering your questions about the m-305 for competion and hunting. I've had a m-305 few several years now and i have shoot just about everything i could with it. In competion i find that .223 AR has the edge on speed due to ligther recoil. Then again the AR is restricted
which means it is impossible to hunt with (for now), and with the m-14 i have shot deer and coyotes in the field. The factory load that my prefers (i don't reload) is remington accu-point 165gr ballistic tip, which at 150 yards gives me a 2.25 inch group (not bad for a stock rifle).
cheers
Hi Ton45, considering your questions about the m-305 for competion and hunting. I've had a m-305 few several years now and i have shoot just about everything i could with it. In competion i find that .223 AR has the edge on speed due to ligther recoil. Then again the AR is restricted
which means it is impossible to hunt with (for now), and with the m-14 i have shot deer and coyotes in the field. The factory load that my prefers (i don't reload) is remington accu-point 165gr ballistic tip, which at 150 yards gives me a 2.25 inch group (not bad for a stock rifle).cheers
If your feeding an M-305 do you have to roll your own ammo? I thought the .308 facory stuff was hard on the gas system?
I guess you could by supplus NATO stuff?
This could be a consideration when talking about the versitility of the rifle.
I guess you could by supplus NATO stuff?
This could be a consideration when talking about the versitility of the rifle.
Frozen Snake
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Yes you will lose money with any custom gun. But let it be known that no matter how much you spend on a rifle and what you do to it, you will never lose as much money as when you sign your name on a new vehicle. Now lets just use a buddy for example. He bought a Ford Exploder NEW. By the time he was finished paying it off he was into it for $35 grand. six years later he trades it in on a new vehicle. They give him $5000 on trade
Different strokes I guess.
Different strokes I guess.
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I hate to suggest, but you may have to suck it up and get yourself a hunting gun which is different from your match gun. You want your hunting gun to be light, reasonably accurate and robust. A match gun would be heavier, exceptionally accurate and be handled a lot more carefully. Your choice, but a jack of all trades does none of them well.
Ardent
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airwapiti said:
I disagree. The guys who are into the sport for only hundreds rather than thousands and use their guns can do some pretty impressive things with them. Operator skill is 9/10's of the equation. He's not going to be entering bench rest competitions, and that's where you run into both skilled operators and the quality equipment, there the 1/10 is a huge component as things get so fractional.
A stock Norinco '305 will often have no trouble with 1.5MOA, and for his purposes, if he trains with the rifle this will more than be adequate for all roles considered.
Better to buy one gun and use it than three and spread yourself between them. I used to be the low $ guy years ago, and no BS beat many an AR with my Yugo SKS, but no more... Too many toys, my open sight skills are getting less sharp, and I don't have that 'specialty factor' anymore despite far better equipment. Of course I have and use guns that shoot far better than my old Yugo today like PE90's etc, but if I had the same skill from training with that one rifle over and over with something like the PE90, I could be much better.
So after all that wind, I can summarize by saying again; operator, operator, operator. And it sounds to me like this fellow is one of those guys who gets a kick outta using one (cheap) gun to beat yuppies like me fiddling with all the bells and whistles.
I've hunted moose a number of times with mine. My father and brother do the same.
For those of you that say it might be a tad heavy for hunting I say invest in a good sling, it goes a long way when your packing a rifle. The sling I use is a thickly padded leather sling a little over 3" wide with a thumb loop just below shoulder level to so you can keep in tucked in tight all the time. This does wonders for carrying a "heavy" rifle. If you plan on walking lots dont cheep out on you sling!
For those of you that say it might be a tad heavy for hunting I say invest in a good sling, it goes a long way when your packing a rifle. The sling I use is a thickly padded leather sling a little over 3" wide with a thumb loop just below shoulder level to so you can keep in tucked in tight all the time. This does wonders for carrying a "heavy" rifle. If you plan on walking lots dont cheep out on you sling!
Ardent said:
Yes indeed Ardent, you read me. Although, my intentions are not to undermine yuppies
. I just don't like wasting time and money. I am just very pragmatic when it comes to firearms. But given financial the opportunity, for example like winning the lottery, I would succumb to the indulgence. Nah! too easy!! Operator, operator, operator. 
