The "Queen's Bird"

Grouse Man said:
Seagulls help clean up the environment. Parking lots, fast food dumpsters, you name it, they eat it.
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Problem is what goes in must go out... they will eat something at a dump, but that something will end up somewhere else, which ofcourse creates more of a problem.

The reason why they are illegal to kill is because as mentioned before they were indangerd, and their entire population is only dependent on a few major food resources. Using the sterotypical garbage dump example, if you remove that then what are they going to eat? There goes a huge amount of birds that the dumpless habitat can support. Sure you want to shoot them now because there are so many of them, but really, why? Your going to eat them? The habitat they live in will balance out their population in the long run. If you want to help kill them, dont throw your stuff away, or invest millions of dollars to put up some sort of wire neting over top of land fills. And if you do shoot them, try not to tell everyone what you did, its obvious that there are 'rats' somewhere in this forum *cough* alaskin brown bear story *cough*

So to sum it up, they *have* very unstable populations. So if you feel the must to pop them off, remember the 3 'S' rule.
 
I forgot to add, leave the dam Cormorants alone too...





But, do so remembering the 3 'S' rule ofcourse ;)
 
The topic of "eating" the seagulls has been brought up a couple times, and to be honest, I definantly WOULD NOT be eating the 'gulls. I hunt crows quite a bit and have never had the urge to bite into one of them. I hunt them not far from a landfill so I know what I would in-turn be eating. I never ever shoot the seagulls because I know it is illegal, but with the high numbers I always wondered why you couldn't.

So here's another ethical type question, is it unethical to just leave the crow carcus's wherever the fall? The area I hunt in is very rough terrain and most of the time the body's blend in with the ground. I always check to make sure that the bird is dead and not laying there alive with a simple wounded wing...but besides that, I usually make no effort to gather them up unless I'm using them to attract more crows. Would this be considered bad hunter ethics?
 
When I shoot crows in town limits I bag them and they go to the dump. Out of town they stay where they drop.
 
pharaoh2 said:
Interesting. But that leaves me to ask a question...

Then just what did they eat before garbage dumps came around?
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There population numbers were much much lower, so basicly the amount that the habitat would support before major human interactions with nature.

Well I would think they would eat fish mainly, but since they are also scavengers, they would really eat almost anything. Kinda like white crows.
 
Grouse Man said:
Seagulls help clean up the environment. Parking lots, fast food dumpsters, you name it, they eat it.

Crows, well, I call them Satan's s**thawks.
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I bet they won't eat a Liberal :eek:
 
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