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Looking good. All we need now is a teaser about it's big brother in .308.
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The R18 Mk2 Review Pt 1 - Initial Details and Pre-Firing Impressions
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As was also mentioned in my review: "It is my belief that the Picatinny Rail should be extended one more increment upwards on the rear of the rifle so that additional adjustment can be made to put the Buttstock slightly over the line of the Barrel. This would serve to reduce any muzzle-flip as well as bringing the cheek-weld a bit higher and possibly more comfortable for certain optics users."
The R18 Mk2 is a very "mature" design IMHO, however there is room for incremental improvement in some areas such as the Buttstock Picatinny Height and the desirabiity of a QD Handguard interface. Other percieved "shortcomings" are simply a matter of user preference and can be easily upgraged if required/desired. The lack of an ambidextrous Magazine Release is a case in point, as is the Mil-Spec Trigger and the Buttstock Design. Those 3 aspects of the rifle are readily upgraded by the user if required, whithout making every purchaser of an R18 Mk2 pay for those particular upgrades.
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Thank you for the informative and detailed review Bartok. It is refreshing to see TSE skipping the pre-sale gong show that can potentially harm customers if things go awry.
The barrel seems like enough of a pencil profile (THANK YOU) so I’m quite surprised to see it weigh in at 7.9 pounds, which for me is where I lose interest. I cannot shave that weight with another AR-style hand guard because of the proprietary sandwich attach method, and I suspect it does it’s fair share of adding ounces. That along with the rather large block of upper receiver.
I’m also with Greentips in thinking that the stock adapter needs to be more inline with the centre axis of the bolt carrier and that the hand guard needs a full picatinny rail. Yes it can be shifted up another notch but then you’re securing your stock to less picatinny rails. If this was the end goal then the rail should have been made another notch larger.
It would have been nice to see an adjustable gas block too, perhaps that can be a revision. Also as much as I appreciate the incorporations of the maritime bolt catch and ambi bolt release I feel it these could have been omitted for ease of part sourcing, machining, and ultimately cost. The final modification decision could have been left to the end user in the form of a BAD lever or their upgraded bolt catch of choice. That way the customer can ‘standardize’ their controls to what they are used to.
All in all it does bring much more to the table than ANY of the other current 180 offerings and you should be proud of that. Right now the Canadian firearms community needs innovators pushing new exciting products to the market and I think you’ll enjoy success with this offering.
The barrel seems like enough of a pencil profile (THANK YOU) so I’m quite surprised to see it weigh in at 7.9 pounds, which for me is where I lose interest. I cannot shave that weight with another AR-style hand guard because of the proprietary sandwich attach method, and I suspect it does it’s fair share of adding ounces. That along with the rather large block of upper receiver.
I’m also with Greentips in thinking that the stock adapter needs to be more inline with the centre axis of the bolt carrier and that the hand guard needs a full picatinny rail. Yes it can be shifted up another notch but then you’re securing your stock to less picatinny rails. If this was the end goal then the rail should have been made another notch larger.
It would have been nice to see an adjustable gas block too, perhaps that can be a revision. Also as much as I appreciate the incorporations of the maritime bolt catch and ambi bolt release I feel it these could have been omitted for ease of part sourcing, machining, and ultimately cost. The final modification decision could have been left to the end user in the form of a BAD lever or their upgraded bolt catch of choice. That way the customer can ‘standardize’ their controls to what they are used to.
All in all it does bring much more to the table than ANY of the other current 180 offerings and you should be proud of that. Right now the Canadian firearms community needs innovators pushing new exciting products to the market and I think you’ll enjoy success with this offering.
Okay, I'm sold. The left-hand view of this thing is gorgeous, especially with that barrel and muzzle device. Now the only question is if I have enough patience to wait for the Mk3 with its QD handguard and folding stock... or if I should just get a Mk2 ASAP and retrofit it with the new stuff later. Decisions, decisions...
As early as late next week or the week after. Wait for the announcement from TSE....
The question will be whether to buy early so as to secure a rifle before any further Ban, or wait for further refinement of minor issues in the hopes of acquiring the "perfect" (for you) rifle. I for one will be an early adopter., as I don't care about an Ejection Port Cover and the Buttstock height works fine for me as is. The Folding Stock and QD Handguard can be retro-fitted in due course after the fact, so no need to wait for those. Provided the rifle is reliable with reasonable accuracy, I will be lining up with cash in hand as soon as sales begin.
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You must have a pretty nifty crystal ball to already know the outcome of my forthcoming range session.....
As for the price, JR Cox mentioned an approximate MSRP of $2600 earlier in this thread. It costs money to have nice things manufactured in Canada. Gotta pay those machinists a decent wage!
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I will be lined up with a fist full of dollars as soon as these are on sale. Please, oh please let it be as soon as late next week! Though I understand that’s optimistic. Thank you to JR and SAI for building these. I registered on the forums specifically to keep up with the R18.
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