The reality of the new Magnums!

BCWILL said:
True Gun Nutz in the Hunting Realm are few and far between.
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That's the cold, hard, sad truth. I guess I should add "present company excluded" or something, but that wouldn't jive with the reality of having the entire range to myself day after day.:(
 
Dogleg said:
That's the cold, hard, sad truth. I guess I should add "present company excluded" or something, but that wouldn't jive with the reality of having the entire range to myself day after day.:(
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Exactly.........
We have 2 Ranges in Town here and No crap the only Folks there on any given day throughout the year are the True Gun Nutz, most of these Folks don't hunt, they Just Love Target shooting.
Go there the day before buck season opens and you can't even get a Table without waiting for 2 hours.... there's ALL kinds of folks there to check thier Rifle cause it hasn't been shot since Last years deer.

Nothing wrong with it....just the Facts:)
 
People that don't like the "new" cartridges generally fall ito a category:

#1 It's new, so I will hate it..

#2 YOu don't *need* it- So I hate it

#3 Because some peopel can't shoot magnums properly, I will blame the cartridge.

Some people can't shoot very well...It's not the faultof the cartridge.:rolleyes:
 
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There's a difference between "like the "new" cartridges " and believing they offer something significantly different from anything previously offered. (emphasis on signficantly)
We all spend far too much time looking for some magical advantage (new or "better" gear), rather than increasing our hunting and shooting skills and spending more time actually hunting.
 
My experience has shown that younger people are more apt to buy the lastest technology, be it electronics or firearm. They seem to have more disposable income or better credit...
Marketing is out there for a reason.
 
Basically, I've got the "magnums" covered for my "needs" with a .300 Win Mag and a .264 Win Mag. But "needs" is just one 1/2 [or so...] of the equation. Then there is the "want" side... Well, the "want" side wants to play with something in 7mm WSM... and 2007 just might be the time to do it! :cool:
 
(Winchester 2003 product guide, 180 gr failsafe)

.....................energy 500 yds.............drop 500 yds (200yrd zero)

300 wsm ......... 1493 ft.lbs. ...................-41.8"

300 win mag .... 1478 ft.lbs ....................-42.1"


Yes, I see what you mean, the new short mags. are far better .:rolleyes: :D
 
The new short mags can work just fine. Some people may even be able to dredge up some pride of ownership in them, though I can't imagine how. Still, it's OK to have one. It's even OK to swallow the advertising hype. It does no harm; especially not to the companies who sell the things. They will take game every bit as well as the old established cartridges. Regards, Bill.
 
The rifle no matter what it is chambered in is just a tool! A tool that can be used wisely and with skill or one that can abused and used incorrectly. By purchasing a .30-378 next year to reach that elk you missed this year with your 30-06 at 600 yards isn't going to cut it. It comes down to polished skill and time behind the trigger. A hunter with a magnum vs a standard isn't likely going to be more productive. However a hunter / shooter that has spent countless hours developing loads, spitting rounds down range and making notes of specific rifle attributes under different conditions, all things being equal the magnum shooter would have an advantage...why?? Because he has graduated with an applicable understanding of the gun and load and can apply them when it counts to pull off that shot where the magnum advantage lies. I bought a 375 RUM in a factory configuration. I stripped it down to a barreled action and spent a boat load of cash on it to get it to a point that its attributes could be realized past the wicked recoil and bark. Why did I do this...its simple! Remington was the master of their own fate with the RUM's. A 7 lb rifle in a plastic injected stock sold to the general hunting population, with a recoil signature that would later be pronounced on the owners brow from the scope smack. The manufacture of these kind of "big boomers" should make them available in their best configuration possible...which in the RUM's case was the Sendero and the LSS...NOT the BDL S/S. I too have seen first hand the Sako and Weatherby owners who hire a guy to sight them in for them and shoot it maybe once a year and think that a 400 yard shot is completely reasonable because they now have a ballistic plex scope that tells them they can...but ony if they hold on this line. There is no replacement for trigger time....no matter what you plan on shooting.
 
Leeper said:
The new short mags can work just fine. Some people may even be able to dredge up some pride of ownership in them, though I can't imagine how. .
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This is form the guy that built me the finest firearm I own- in 300WSM.:runaway:

i take great pride in owning that rifle, Bill. :) :p
 
gunrunner100 said:
My experience has shown that younger people are more apt to buy the lastest technology, be it electronics or firearm. They seem to have more disposable income or better credit...
Marketing is out there for a reason.
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I agree, and almost fell into the same routine, until I found the joy of P14's and '17's. But then again, one of my p14's constantly begs for a 375 HH barrel, bringing me to the magnum issue again.:rolleyes:
 
Ho hum, humbug. Who cares? Shoot what you wish and have fun. Firearms manufacturers wish to sell more guns and come up with the short magnums, good for them! My 6.5X55 kills stuff dead and has never let me down, good enuff for me.

BTW, Merry Xmas to all! Troutseeker
 
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