The Record Holder once again...

BadAsMo said:
Don't mean to be the downer here but if we do the math on a shot like that.... He got lucky.
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100 percent agree.

Just think about the flight time. After the trigger was pulled the guy he shot at could have got up, walked around for a bit, scratched his butt, grabbed a falafel and sat back down before the projectile arrived.

The probability of that target still being in the same place after that time is more amazing that the shot.
 
Hey torontogungal whats with the fake news? this just might show you as ON. lieberal and why are you not supporting our gun orgs have not seen NRA do anything for us or are ya just trollin
 
RMStyler said:
100 percent agree.

Just think about the flight time. After the trigger was pulled the guy he shot at could have got up, walked around for a bit, scratched his butt, grabbed a falafel and sat back down before the projectile arrived.

The probability of that target still being in the same place after that time is more amazing that the shot.
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Well you don't take the shot until the target is stationary, like sitting in a chair, or kneeling on the ground hooking up an IED. I too agree it was a VERY lucky shot, but there is no denying that there was some serious skill and knowledge behind that shot.

You or me would likely have just as much luck hitting a target at that distance pointing the rifle in the air and pulling the trigger as opposed to actually aiming.
 
oddball_ted said:
Why are we even meddling in Iraq? What a waste of time. Fine rifle.
I'm no liberal, but for Christ sakes, forget about that filthy sand pile over there
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Easy, you kill the cancer at the source. If we left ISIS alone, then they would have the Iraqi oil revenues to pay for their jihad and a safe place to train jihadis. The we would have to deal with the influx of refugees. Most of which just want to live in a safe place where they won't get killed. And of course we will then have to sort through all the refugee applications to find any ISIS infiltrators. Even if there weren't any, we would still have to look, since the potential for disaster could be very high. Also by hunting them down on their own turf, it makes it difficult to spread the message of their jihad to other extremist communities. And personally I would rather keep the fight against terrorists outside of Canada.

Also you can't buy training opportunities like this for the JTF2 boys. I also wouldn't be surprised if there is a ton of intelligence derived from this that filters back to our own intelligence and law enforcement agencies.

To be honest we are dealing with the aftermath of George Dubya's little crusade. Saddam got his just deserts but some serious thought should have been given on what would fill the void.

Mike
 
bullzeye said:
canada uses ammo loaded with amax bullets. they do not expand. also match hollow point bullets do not contravene the geneva convention for the same reason. the jackets are too thick to open up. check hunting regs and i believe they specify no fmj or non expanding bullets and match bullets not allowed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7pAXj89hok
Thats a video of a 750gr AMAX in ballistic gel. spoiler: it expands.
the prohibition on match bullets for hunting is because they fragment; the jackets are too thin to withstand the hydrostatic shock of penetrating tissue, often resulting in horrific superficial wounds on animals that run away then die of gangrene or some other terrible and inhumane death.
 
the_blacksmith said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7pAXj89hok
Thats a video of a 750gr AMAX in ballistic gel. spoiler: it expands.
the prohibition on match bullets for hunting is because they fragment; the jackets are too thin to withstand the hydrostatic shock of penetrating tissue, often resulting in horrific superficial wounds on animals that run away then die of gangrene or some other terrible and inhumane death.
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You realize furlong used 750 grain amax round right? Like this isn't secret oooh we didn't know this #### is common knowledge at this point. On top of that really jtf2 using gucci ammo? Noo. They definitely use basic ammo reserved for generic infantry and nothing else.
 
i guess the rifle has a record, i'd like to think the guy who did it would be just as capable with another 50 cal system though...he should really be getting 100% of the credit here, it's not the oscars haha "id like to thank mcmillan, Schmidt and bender, kestrel, john browning" etc etc
 
Aim at target, pull trigger, HIT target... Since when is that luck!!!
Well Done... And the Americans are butt hurt because it wasn't one of their guys..
 
BadAsMo said:
Don't mean to be the downer here but if we do the math on a shot like that.... He got lucky.

Suppose the gun could shoot 1 MOA... at 3450 meters (3772 yards) that's a group size of what... 38 inches. (And please note that 1 MOA is exceptional accuracy for a 50 cal especially in military conditions.)

In other words all things being absolutely perfect he had no better than about a 50 percent chance of hitting the guy.

No doubt though to get the come ups right and the wind, that's a great call considering the altitude and atmospherics.

I'm really curious how many shots he took to hit the guy and what support equipment he used to determine wind, distance and trajectory. They have laser systems these days to automate all of this and I'm curious if he was using any of it, or just squeezed his butt cheeks together and took the shot.

Can't wait for the detailed video on the History Channel.
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Lol it would take nothing short of a miracle for me to hit a man sized target at 3 and a half kilometres if I were to rely on luck alone. This was a combination of a LOT of skill, knowledge, planning, meticulous maintenance of gear, and a little luck for the last metre or so of the 3.5k total.
 
Goose762 said:
When the Americans left ISiS promptly took over over half the country. I think we can all agree the world is better off now that their Caliphate is on the way out.
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+100 on this.
Sure it's a pile of dirt, but the enemy of all western civilization has put down stakes and run up their flag there, a rallying point for all extremists... not coincidentally with a nice oil field to fund their activities.
ISIS having nicely concentrated and assumed said position, every nation possessing anything remotely resembling democratic government should be kicking their ass.
'Cuz there is no refuge or safety in "live and let live".

Admittedly, just my 2.
 
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