The SEALS pick the Glock 19. (merged)
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Yeaaaaah I'm not sure why they'd do that aside from cost savings in the long run. The G19 is too small for anyone above average size. I suppose an elite warrior could get used to it, and glocks are accurate. But yes yes, everyone off-sell your anchors! Half price bonanza!
Btw who cares what the Americans are using.. What about Canadian special forces? Why do any of you care so much about the yanks
Btw who cares what the Americans are using.. What about Canadian special forces? Why do any of you care so much about the yanks
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Lol ok a top tier SOF unit is only getting the G19 to save money, even though they can get anything they want. Oook
love this tread about seal and g19. The only thing that I can think of is the maritime spring cup for Glocks. It sort of make sense for the SEAL to change out from Sig to Glock. They do what they do... we just sit and drool over Sigs or Glocks or both.
I've not shot a lot o glocks (cool run if I may so my self) but do want to learn to shoot em well. I have tried a few, pretty tough to keep up with their ridiculous model number system without the wiki table in pocket.
I notice that the original g19 is 102mm (if mem serves) so us canucks can only have them with a threaded barrel it seems or prohibited status.
any thoughts on the threaded barrel being good bad indifferent to the size of the frame and slide as designed? maybe that's why they wanted it some threads elsewhere do suggest concealed, size, weight and of course the myriad of accessories and magazine options won the day. no doubt they got a good price... although I remember seeing a government price book from an office supply company and I know the prices were 4 times that of what I could go buy in store.
I notice that the original g19 is 102mm (if mem serves) so us canucks can only have them with a threaded barrel it seems or prohibited status.
any thoughts on the threaded barrel being good bad indifferent to the size of the frame and slide as designed? maybe that's why they wanted it some threads elsewhere do suggest concealed, size, weight and of course the myriad of accessories and magazine options won the day. no doubt they got a good price... although I remember seeing a government price book from an office supply company and I know the prices were 4 times that of what I could go buy in store.
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My thoughts exactly
The initial comment wasn't disrespectful, and I merely corrected the poster, and gave him some advice. Brettzky's comment on the other hand was entirely disrespectful, and given his comments, I doubt he has ever served in uniform. Given your comments, I doubt you have either. As for knowing what people do or have done for a living, it's usually pretty easy to tell from their language.
If you think SEALs aren't offended by being referred to as "seals", why don't you come on over to SOCNET, and try that attitude with some real SEALs? No, didn't think so.
Besides, what has any of this got to do with you? Were any comments addressed to or about you? Why did you feel the urge to comment? Are you a SEAL? Former SEAL? Any other current or previous SpecOps guy?
Regards.
Mark
alright that's enough everyone. MWL and all, mine was a typo. That being said I could have gone on as well with how it shouldn't matter or equally how it should. this is a text based forum, and by definition anyone can interupt respect or meaning any way they like. I can't control how people react to what I write. it's like my wife, she hears what she wants to hear finds truth or disdain for her reason. If someone interprets my text for disrespect it's because they don't know me. I get that. personally I wouldn't do it to others in things or places like this. legal documents and technical literature i sure would and I would let em have it.
Again I am sorry Mark for offending you amd the SEALs it was not my intention. everyone would surely know if I wanted to be a douchbag.
how about we get back on track again. so who is going to perform the first 226 vs g19 Canadian testing review? course it's probably gotta be a gen4 vs p226r.
Again I am sorry Mark for offending you amd the SEALs it was not my intention. everyone would surely know if I wanted to be a douchbag.
how about we get back on track again. so who is going to perform the first 226 vs g19 Canadian testing review? course it's probably gotta be a gen4 vs p226r.
actually, that last question was for you MWL. seems like you are qualified to address a new updated test between glock and sig with a Canadian persepctive. umm your signature.... Could you or have you already done something like this and could you publish your findings?
Although I have attended training at both the Glock factory in Georgia, the SIG Academy in New Hampshire, as well as elsewhere; am in fairly regular contact with present and former US, Canadian, and other SF, Mil and LE personnel; and done some testing with both the Glock 17/19 and SIG P226 MK25, I would not presume to know exactly why the SEALs chose the Glock 19 as their new "official" handgun, although I have heard several reasons from USSOCOM Operatives.
From a personal perspective, there are obvious differences between the two designs. Despite being more familiar with Glocks, I found that I was able to shoot the SIG slightly more accurately right out of the box. Enough to make me choose one over the other? Not really.
The SIG is obviously heavier, and a little bulkier than the Glock 19. This means that the Glock will conceal easier when required, and probably less lightly to snag on clothing or equipment when being drawn from concealment.
The controls on the SIG are not as friendly for left handed shooters, which means that for 1/5th of shooters, the Glock will probably be easier to use. for the other 4/5ths, they will find it easier to use the Glock with their weak hand, if required due to an injury or carrying or pulling another piece of gear or person.
The Glock has fewer parts, which means simpler operation, less possibility of parts failure, easier malfunction diagnosis and repair, and a smaller parts inventory required for replacements.
Those are what I would see as the main differences. Both are capable of reliably putting rounds where the user wants.
How much of this applies to the civilian shooter in Canada? Very little, in fact probably none of the above, unless you are left handed, or have a malfunctioning gun. So, should everyone run out and buy a Glock 19? Personally, I don't believe so. Will it change anything for me personally? Nope. We already have the Glock 19 in inventory, for demonstrations, etc. but it does not work as well for me as the Glock 17. It is slightly too small in my hand to be comfortable, and I shoot the 17 better. I'm also left handed, hence my choice of Glock over SIG.
So, what is the point of this thread? Nothing really, other than the OP thought the news was interesting enough to post it on CGN, starting the usual circus. What I don't really understand, is why many posters are getting their knickers twisted about what the SEALs are using.
Those of us who keep an eye on stuff have known that the SEALs have been buying Glock 19s via unit purchases for a while now, and are actually the last of the USSOCOM elements to "officially" adopt the Glock 19. What does this mean for other SF units around the world? Nothing really, they already knew about the move by US SF towards the Glock, and many have already been evaluating it, or in some cases, have already moved to using Glocks, if not as their "official" handgun, certainly it is available to them.
Just my 0.02.
Regards.
Mark
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I can relate to this. A lot of people I know are obsessed with the Glock 19. They absolutely love it. I shot it and it just doesn't fit my big mitts! I prefer my Glock 17 over the 19. I have also owned and shot the P226 MK25 and found that, for me personally, I shoot better with the Glock 17. I found the bore axis on the Sig very high and had difficulty lining up my sights after drawing because it is a "high" gun.
Boys, shake hands and stop getting on each other's throats for some sh_t non of us will ever get anything and anywhere. Mark, easy up with the SOCNET and everybody else stop making sh_t up. What they do on paper and what they use everyday its like kids can't buy beer or smokes. TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. We are a forum of paper plinkers in a country with locked guns talking sh_t more that Fox News. USMC was buying Glocks for 20 years now and you guys are correcting the "seal" vs "SEAL". Still wanna know why most SOF guys will drink or play video games in their down time? Read this thread, all 26 pages.
I have a 19 and won't fit my hand no matter how cool it looks. My 17 ....oh sorry back to the what SEALS eat for breakfast ...lol
I have a 19 and won't fit my hand no matter how cool it looks. My 17 ....oh sorry back to the what SEALS eat for breakfast ...lol
Inquiring minds want to know.
Seriously though, I don't think SEALs get as worked up about a Glock 19 as we paper punchers do. It's only a sidearm.
