The Flux Raider Chassis features an Ambi Safety which physically blocks movement of the P320 FCU Trigger. Use the provided manual safety and there is no chance of an unintentional discharge. Easy-Peasey!
The SIG Sauer P320 Has Never Been Good
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Personally for me, this was a disappointing decision for the CF, & why they thought they needed an FCU style pistol? given the very limited number of soldiers issued a pistol is beyond me. You can't not discount SIG's on going issues with this platform, again, really makes you wonder who are making these bad procurement decisions?
They probably decided the pistol based many things such compatible with US military M17, possibly being next 50 years old pistol, P320 can change parts easily for armourers with minimal training and low cost point compare their competitors.
I don't think CAF decision was terrible but SIG will have to eventually come with some sort "upgrade 2.0" to ease off the PR nightmare. But it might be a little late.
I see you point but as a P320 armourer, there is little that can be "changed out" with respect to the FCU, in my experience, usually the pistols are taken out of service and replaced, again another expensive mistake. The US M17 is sold with an external safety, a very different pistol, I don't believe we purchased that model. What we haven't seen in the US, when there are alot of these pistols, is SIG doing a "recall" or "upgrade" instead they are defending the design, which I believe is flawed. Only time will tell I guess?
C22 and C24 does not have external safety which you are correct, but what I mean with US compatibility with their forces are parts and magazines for purchase in large quantity. I wouldn't be surprised if shortage of parts in the future we would be purchasing refurbished parts from US.
I don't work at armourer but I do contact them from time to time and they do swap new upper and other "newish" uppers from previous firearms. I don't know their procedures but something I do notice when I received returns.
Regarding if they will or will not do second time upgrade, I would suspect late 2026. Maybe updated P320 entirely?
If CAF had to decide another pistol I think GOV will cut something else to get replacements lol.
I for one, cannot for the life of me fathom why the Directorate of Land Requirements doofus in charge of the new Pistol selection chose the version without the Manual Safety! Afghanistan clearly showed us that the pistol is the small arm by far the most prone to dangerous handling and Negligent Discharge (ND) within the Canadian inventory. A lack of comprehensive training coupled with a rapid proliferation of issued pistols down to the Cpl/Pte level resulted in numerous NDs. It was a perennial issue that the Gunfighter program helped to address, however that training alone was insufficient.
Inclusion of the manual Safety option would have gone a long way towards preventing Pistol NDs in the new CAF Handgun. I own an M17 with the Manual Safety and it is excellent. Well-positioned and easily manipulated with the Thumb of the Firing Hand, there is no good reason to support NOT having this additional, Manual Safety device on the Service Handgun. And yet here we are....
Talk about short- sighted! Whoever the. uniformed clown was that selected tĥè SIG C22 and C24 without the Manual Safety was a complete and utter idiot, full-stop. Totally typical, though.... (sigh)
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The real reason it was chosen? How cheap it is. The first 7000 pistols purchased for less than $615 each, according to the news anyway....the contact for 16,500 C22/P320s is valued at 10.3million. $624.25 each if you DONT calculate in any holsters (Blackhawk T-Series L2D holster set, drop leg attachment, belt attachment, etc. is issued with each pistol), spare parts, manuals, training, etc. If you do factor that into the contract value, what is the actual amount we are paying for each pistol? A few hundred bucks?
Depends, hot holstering is considered an advanced course. So generally yes, anyone trained on the basic course for the C22 would carry it with no live round in the chamber, until/unless they have done a hot holstering course
Just did some more research into the US procurement of the P320
From what I understand, they bought the SIGs for $173/ea (CAD). Glock came in at $394.40/ea (CAD). They may have gotten a better deal than we have though since their contract with SIG was over $800 million (CAD)
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Perhaps controversial but I think the best modern European "Sig" is probably going to be the AREX/Steyr lines of "modern P226s" like the ATc/ATd.
I doubt that parts shortage and using refurbished parts from the US is going to be a thing. Be it from a standard contractual aspect or emergency situation. But anything is possible.
The overall contract is a drop in the bucket. There is plenty of things where money is wasted that small arms procurement (esp pistols) doesn't even play a factor.
I tend to agree that the manual safety would have been a good option and perhaps preferred for hand position consistency/ergonomics even if the safety wasn't used (for those who like the 1911 style of thumb riding the safety).
IIRC, the original SOR was already heavily skewed towards the P320 anyway and any feature that was obviously favouring the Sig over Glock option was dialed back and so the manual safety (option) was removed from the requirements but yet the modularity was overly emphasised (despite the fact that the CAF basically would not make use of those features en masse). It is/was the cool kid that everyone was biased towards irrespective of whether any other plastic fantastic striker-fired duty pistol (Glock or other) would have fulfilled the intent.
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Overall, I tend to agree with JasonGTA that price/unit (incl support) certainly put the icing on the cake to seal the deal.
Looks to me like it was exactly what people have been saying- the gun discharged when the slide made contact with the holster.
