The Stag 10s NR stripped receiver set thread

Your reasoning is flawed…almost every retailer in Canada has sold a gun that another retailer has submitted to the RCMP.



Bad Example - The big difference between AE and Wolverine Team is that the Wolverine Team did not gouge and sodomized Canadian gun enthusiast when they released their non-restricted rifle.


example---- ArmsEast is selling Geissele SSA 2-Stage Trigger for 324.00+tax+shipping. You can buy it directly from Geissele.com for $190.00+shipping ($251Canadian). Only reason why they are able to charge 75 more is because they have a Canada monopoly. This is exactly what they tried to do with Stag and failed.
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Its just business !!
I wouldnt get wrapped up in it.... theyd all do whatever they can to make bucks off of us

No need to get upset... just enjoy your new NR stag
 
Your reasoning is flawed…almost every retailer in Canada has sold a gun that another retailer has submitted to the RCMP.



Bad Example - The big difference between AE and Wolverine Team is that the Wolverine Team did not gouge and sodomized Canadian gun enthusiast when they released their non-restricted rifle.



A.E is still running an early 1990s/pre-google business model. Example time-- ArmsEast is selling Geissele SSA 2-Stage Trigger for 324.00+tax+shipping. You can buy it directly from Geissele.com for $190.00+ free shipping ($251Canadian). Only reason why they are able to charge $75 more is because they have a Canadian monopoly. This is exactly what they tried to do with Stag and failed.

I think you are an idiot to defend them when they were planning to sodomizing you.

Good to know on the trigger
 
I'm not entirely sure what's involved but I have a feeling it wasn't a tonne of work for ae to just send the RCMP a sample gun to evaluate. Bcl, slr, the modern series all had to create something and possibly do revisions to get a nr frt. Stag already produces this gun and doesn't care about the Canadian market enough to make a custom receiver for nr status. If this came back ar 10 variant, ae would still be selling it just as restricted and they wouldn't be out much. Irg was already selling these in the US and just happened to benefit from the the nr frt
 
Your reasoning is flawed…almost every retailer in Canada has sold a gun that another retailer has submitted to the RCMP.



Bad Example - The big difference between AE and Wolverine Team is that the Wolverine Team did not gouge and sodomized Canadian gun enthusiast when they released their non-restricted rifle.



A.E is still running an early 1990s/pre-google business model. Example time-- ArmsEast is selling Geissele SSA 2-Stage Trigger for 324.00+tax+shipping. You can buy it directly from Geissele.com for $190.00+ free shipping ($251Canadian). Only reason why they are able to charge $75 more is because they have a Canadian monopoly. This is exactly what they tried to do with Stag and failed.

I think you are an idiot to defend them when they were planning to sodomizing you.

It's hard for me to understand those people who argues the other side of the coin when you know you are getting raped for NR tax if it wasn't for "Some" competition. I say "Some" because even IRG is charging higher compare to our US counterparts on many things they bring in. Regardless who submitted the sample to the LAB, they don't have monopoly on the FRT.
 
There are ways to go about selling firearms that others have brought to the Canadian market, that demonstrates appreciation and respect for their work. Look at how Wolverine Supplies has entered into a mutually-agreeable arrangement with Arms East to distribute the Stag 10 rifles in Canada. Classy, respectful and cooperative for the mutual benefit of both businesses. Then look at how IRG attempts to undercut AE within hours of the FRT being dropped, without so much as an acknowledgement of AE's legwork. Big difference that speaks volumes about their respective ethics and related business practices....

So IRG should sell the gun to us for more money than they sell it to their American customers for? Just to keep you and AE happy? GTFOH!

If anything, Stag sells the guns to AE for less than they sell them to IRG for. So who's really getting screwed here? Remember that AE immediately dropped their price when they realized that they didn't have any "exclusive" rights to the platform. This should tell you everything that you need to know.

Lets not pretend that AE has a huge financial investment into this. Stag created the gun, not AE. Stag shouldered the costs of this. AE submitted the sample and plead their case to the RCMP, then they waited.
 
So IRG should sell the gun to us for more money than they sell it to their American customers for? Just to keep you and AE happy? GTFOH!

Where did I state or infer any such thing? Hint: I didn't. I was merely talking about having basic business manners, giving credit where due, and trying to work with the FRT-acquiring company rather than against them by immediately attempting to undercut and steal business away for themselves. The cooperative approach was taken by Woverine Supplies with a result that works for all concerned including the customer. Very classy. IRG? Not so much.

Please tell me that you are being deliberately obtuse....
 
Where did I state or infer any such thing? Hint: I didn't. I was merely talking about having basic business manners, giving credit where due, and trying to work with the FRT-acquiring company rather than against them by immediately attempting to undercut and steal business away for themselves. The cooperative approach was taken by Woverine Supplies with a result that works for all concerned including the customer. Very classy. IRG? Not so much.

Please tell me that you are being deliberately obtuse....

Here's the part that you're missing. These were for sale in the states long before they were offered here.... IRG offered them to us for the same price that they already had them listed for their American customers. The same as it is for all the firearms they sell. They didn't undercut anyone, it's their normal pricing... The reason there was a big discrepancy, was because AE marked their price up so high. I fail to see how you don't see the ethical problem with that, but do see it with IRG simply offering us a product that they already sold before any of this.

Wolverine has to work with AE because they cannot import them themselves. You're not comparing the same scenarios here.
 
This simply comes down to IRG having a better business model for selling guns in Canada. There's nothing more to it than that.
 
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Here's the part that you're missing. These were for sale in the states long before they were offered here.... IRG offered them to us for the same price that they already had them listed for their American customers. The same as it is for all the firearms they sell. They didn't undercut anyone, it's their normal pricing... The reason there was a big discrepancy, was because AE marked their price up so high. I fail to see how you don't see the ethical problem with that, but do see it with IRG simply offering us a product that they already sold before any of this.

Wolverine has to work with AE because they cannot import them themselves. You're not comparing the same scenarios here.

You may lack some understanding of the import and FRT process. Firstly, I believe that Arms East has stated that their "STAG 10 CDN" receivers are different than the version sold in the US, which is entirely plausible, as Arms East may have worked with Stag to develop a proprietary receiver set so that they could prove without a doubt, based on technical aspects of the receiver that it was and is not compatible with major components of other currently named Restricted firearms.

Wolverine Supplies is a large business, and is more than capable of importing firearms from a multitude of countries... take a look at their product offerings and exclusive distributorships on certain products. They would be more than capable of importing their own Stag 10 receiver sets, however it appears they've chosen to work with Arms East, who I'm sure they greatly appreciate did the leg work on getting these approved as Non-Restricted.
 
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