The Steyr Scout, and Scout vs. SSG (picture thread)

Nice pics. I understand that seeing your target makes hitting it easier, but the Scout concept isn't about hitting tiny things at distance. However, if it works for you, great. Enjoy. I really like your SSG. Back in the day (early 90's, maybe late 80's) I took my first practical precision rifle course and got to use an SSG. Belonged to a friend of mine, very nice rifle and a good guy. - dan
 
This is like shooting a quarter or a loonie at 100m. If you can do that with the Leupold scout scope... well, I don't think I need to finish that sentence. Only on the internet can anyone shoot a quarter at 100m with a scout scope.
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Interesting challenge.. I think it might be possible, let me try. I don't have a 2.5X Leupold scout scope but I do have a 1.75X Burris scout scope, I assume that's OK ;-)

Your choice of aiming mark (1"-diameter black ring) is a pretty difficult target to see, especially with a low power scope. Would you consider either of the following aiming marks to still adhere to the spirit of this:
- a 1" square black aiming mark (a target paster patch)
- a ~5" diameter round black aiming mark (i.e. the sort of aiming mark you'd use with iron sights)

My scout(ish) rifle is out of commission at the moment (aside: I am looking for a bolt for an M96 Swede!) so I think I'll mount the 1.75X Burris scout scope on my Win-M70 .308 target rifle. It'll be a bit awkward shooting an intermediate eye relief scope in the over-the-receiver location but I'm sure there'll be a way to work through that.
 
I had the Scout and that same SSG (the one with the S&B scope) out at the range again this weekend. I was trying to see if I could get any better group with the Scout with Hornady 168gr. BTHP factory ammo, rather then the 168gr. A-Max I was using the week before (see group on page 2 of this thread). The results were actually about the same (5/8 this time vs. 7/8 lasttime). This is the best 3-shot group I could produce at 100m with one 20 round box of ammo:
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I have been using factory ammo with the Scout because, for some weird reason it has a hard time closing the bolt on my re-loads. I think I will have to get a better case trimming system if I am going to reload for this rifle, as I just use those Lee hand cutting tools for trimming .308 cases, and it doesn't work for this rifle.

I was shooting the SSG 69 at the same time (with reloads) for comparison purposes:

Best group (that day) at 100m: (note the stray .22 calibre hits on my paper! I was getting a lot of that this weekend actually).
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Best group that day at 200m:
My girlfriend was saying that I should tell you guys I was aiming for the lines, but alas, I was trying to group the shots inside the circle. I am weird that way. "Grouping" does nothing for me unless I can group the shots on top of what I am trying to hit. While getting them all in the circle would be cool, this is still like hitting a Toonie-sized object three times in a row at 200m, and it is hard not to be happy with that.
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This was the second best group I had at 200m (out of 20 rounds fired at 200m). It seems that my technique is getting a bit better, but I am still getting too much discrepancy right left. I am certain the gun will shoot better than this for a more experienced shooter and/or reloads that are really dialed in to the preferences of this rifle.
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O.k., here are some Scout scope photos. The Scout scope has it's place. They don't cost much. I could get another one as an "accessory" for this Scout rifle. When I had mine I just used the Leupold PRW "low" rings. Now I use the "high" ones. You can use QRW as well. If I had another one I doubt I would use it for more than the novelty of it now and then. Among its other issues, I find the reticle lines to be too heavy. And yes, I know, the retort will be "it's not for shooting for accuracy", but my preference is for a finer reticle.

The Schmidt & Bender Summit 2.5-10x40mm has an unusually long eye relief for a standard scope (3.93 inch/100mm, which is about 15mm longer than other S&B scopes), which is why I have it mounted all the way forward. You can definitely shoot it with both eyes open. I do it all the time. Set it on 2.5 and it replicates the Scout scope "experience" quite closely. I know I owned one and shot it for years. It is capable of a whole lot more though (see groups above). It is also vastly brighter and clearer than the Leupold 2.5x28mm IER scope, although it costs more than 3 times as much.

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Schmidt & Bender 2.5-10x40mm Summit set on 2.5:
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