The Type 97 is back . . .

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Well for one thing they are accurized, probably of higher quality for that purpose, and come with alot of accessories. optics, bipod etc. Makes sense to me. I just wish it was made in a higher caliber.
 
seth said:
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Hot Damn, now THAT's a design I could get behind.

(or slightly ahead of)

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(Bullpup joke)
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Looks like it might not be that much work to actually accomplish. The charging handle (toggle? knob?) already has a hole in it. Might work leaving all that alone and designing the rail so that handle moves inside the rail but with a level to extend side ways using that existing hole.

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I had bought one (T97) from Can Ammo when they first came out and sold it to a store where they police confiscated it after designating it prohib. Can Ammo at that time was making a pre order list and asking for a $100.00 deposit to be on that list. I paid my money to support their endevors to bring in the non restricted and that was back in 2008 from the copy of my corospondence with them. The picture they have advertising the arm was mine as I sent them the picture. I am thrilled that they are coming back, it has been a long wait. I have just sent a copy of the corospondence to reafirm that I still want one as I had paid the deposit, apparently they should be here from what I have read on this rag, in 2013. Whoopie!! I wrote up a range report and sent pictures to this site on the accuracy which was comparable to a AR. I hope that the new ones are as reliable as my original one. I never experienced a malfunction with it.
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norlandgeese said:
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Things you all should be noting from this video:
1) These guys don't use the safety on their rifles. They run with them unloaded then operate the charging handle just before they shoot.
2) There is no bolt release button on the Type 97. The bolt will hold open on the last round but you have to run the charging handle to gas it back up. If you have a malfunction or a double feed you are in for a lengthy problem solving session.
3) Their mag changes were goofy. I prefer this one (without the finger on the trigger the whole time):
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BUT, that can only be done with the paddle on the QBZ-95. The Type 97 has the mag release on the right side of the rifle. Someone could easily make a Norgon style ambi release to help. When I had mine, I did a reach under (around) and hit the release with my left hand while keeping the rifle up. It was reasonably fast and I never seemed to have problems locating the button. However, the location of the mag well required me to look down during the mag change more than I would like , no matter how far up I held the rifle.

As Big Red posted, the Type 97 would make a great truck gun, but as far as competition goes, it's gonna require some serious training to get proficient, and even then you aren't gonna be as fast as competent guys running an AR.
 
Clobbersauras said:
Things you all should be noting from this video:
1) These guys don't use the safety on their rifles. They run with them unloaded then operate the charging handle just before they shoot. DUMB
2) There is no bolt release button on the Type 97. The bolt will hold open on the last round but you have to run the charging handle to gas it back up. If you have a malfunction or a double feed you are in for a lengthy problem solving session. Not the worst design
3) Their mag changes were goofy. I prefer this one (without the finger on the trigger the whole time): Aside from removing ones hand from fire control, the goofy method looked to be smooth and fairly efficient.
[Youtube]tMmaIZ8Umnk[/Youtube]
BUT, that can only be done with the paddle on the QBZ-95. The Type 97 has the mag release on the right side of the rifle. Someone could easily make a Norgon style ambi release to help. When I had mine, I did a reach under (around) and hit the release with my left hand while keeping the rifle up. It was reasonably fast and I never seemed to have problems locating the button. However, the location of the mag well required me to look down during the mag change more than I would like , no matter how far up I held the rifle.

As Big Red posted, the Type 97 would make a great truck gun, but as far as competition goes, it's gonna require some serious training to get proficient, and even then you aren't gonna be as fast as competent guys running an AR.
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No, way?! A bullpup isn't as fast as a conventional design like an AR? You mean, a rock and lock magazine system tucked into you armpit is cumbersome? Who knew!!

TDC
 
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