The Type 97 is back . . .

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I totally agree that for the price of that gun, it should come with a sweet trigger. I do wonder though if the gritty trigger has to do with increased reliability? I know jack about triggers so I may be way off, but I do know its made for combat accuracy not bench shooting.
 
A trigger is one of the key factors in a gun...if the gun functions and looks great but has such a poor trigger you cannot connect with your targets...then is it still a good gun? NOT saying the Tavor is this, just an example.

Same goes with sights...need good ones to be able to aim at your targets and with ammo...if you run a $3000 gun but want to run the oldest, cheapest, dirtiest ammo you can find then you cannot complain when your groups look like a shotgun pattern!!!
 
I had one of the first T97's from Lever. It had a bit of a spongey trigger but it was a very light pull. After everything bad happened with that rifle I consoled myself with a Tavor that I'm still paying for. I have to admit that I would have been happier to have been allowed to keep that rifle at a third of the Tavor's final bill. Is the Tavor slicker? Heck yeah. Is the Tavor ###ier? It's the high maintenance trophy wife of black rifles and the T97 is the kinda awkward but still cute one that doesn't mind getting real dirty and smelling of burnt gunpowder at the drop of a hat. Give her a wipe off and she cleans up real nice. Does the Tavor function better? I don't really think so ( at least not 3 times better ) I have a couple of other Norinco firearms that are built for the civilian market; the T97 definitely didn't feel like it was. Now I wait to see what happens with the T97 as well. I do know that while it is a tad cruder than the Tavor you won't regret getting one. When the death warrant for my rifle was mailed to me we tried to wear it out; I had about 800 .223 cartridges and as we burned all of them off it wasn't getting tired it was just getting warmed up.
 
Egon said:
I had one of the first T97's from Lever. It had a bit of a spongey trigger but it was a very light pull. After everything bad happened with that rifle I consoled myself with a Tavor that I'm still paying for. I have to admit that I would have been happier to have been allowed to keep that rifle at a third of the Tavor's final bill. Is the Tavor slicker? Heck yeah. Is the Tavor ###ier? It's the high maintenance trophy wife of black rifles and the T97 is the kinda awkward but still cute one that doesn't mind getting real dirty and smelling of burnt gunpowder at the drop of a hat. Give her a wipe off and she cleans up real nice. Does the Tavor function better? I don't really think so ( at least not 3 times better ) I have a couple of other Norinco firearms that are built for the civilian market; the T97 definitely didn't feel like it was. Now I wait to see what happens with the T97 as well. I do know that while it is a tad cruder than the Tavor you won't regret getting one. When the death warrant for my rifle was mailed to me we tried to wear it out; I had about 800 .223 cartridges and as we burned all of them off it wasn't getting tired it was just getting warmed up.
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Cool user insight finally someone that actually used it. Thanks !
 
jeffcarr88 said:
To real?!?!

More like couldn't stand anyone else not taking his word for the gospel and lord help you if you like and talk about a piece of gear that he doesn't!!! He was an elitist, a bully and a straight up a$$hole to noobs and people trying to get into the game...glad to see him gone. I assume he is spitting his poison over at glocktalk or m4carbine.net now
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could not agree more ! Good riddance to that elitist mall ninja .
 
Sales of what?
The gun hasn't been even produced.
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That's why it's called a PRE-sale. If you're watching other reatailers line up hundreds of buyers, you would start a pre-sale too, in order to avoid losing all of those potential sales. It helps to envsion a scenario where the approval goes through, then it will make sense to you. BTW, here is Wanstall's take on this:

Just to confirm for everybody. There is an open APPROVED FRT number for the Type 97NSR. The FRT is not officially released to the public based on CFC seeing the actual rifle but we expect an official announcement as early as the January. We are not concerned..

Gary
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So, unless the supplier is lying to everyone, the haters can stop saying "there will never be an approved FRT".
Whether it gets cleared remains to be seen.
 
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It's funny how the same subjects, questions and answers have to be repeated several times in a thread with needless heresay, arguing and vicious opinions in between.

I love CGN :p
 
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driller212 said:
It's funny how the same subjects, questions and answers have to be repeated several times in a thread with needless heresy, arguing and vicious opinions in between.

I love CGN :p
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My guess on this is people are too lazy to use the scroll function on their crumby little small screen smartphones...the bane of society in general...just my $0.02 worth...
 
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