The Ultimate North American Hunting Round?

Best North American Hunting Round

  • .270 Winchester

    Votes: 70 8.4%
  • .270 WSM

    Votes: 11 1.3%
  • .30-06

    Votes: 358 42.8%
  • .35 Whelen (tough to find, yes, but solid)

    Votes: 19 2.3%
  • 7mm Rem Mag

    Votes: 67 8.0%
  • .300 Win Mag

    Votes: 147 17.6%
  • .338 Win Mag

    Votes: 67 8.0%
  • .375 Mag (H&H or Ruger)

    Votes: 54 6.5%
  • .300 Ultra Mag (tough to find, but hard to argue with)

    Votes: 8 1.0%
  • .300 WSM

    Votes: 35 4.2%

  • Total voters
    836
Hoyt, you're wasting your breath preaching the challenges and ethics of bowhunting to this group of gun totin' crackers....................But I hear ya, buddy !!!!! :):yingyang::yingyang::d

Yeah, Douglas... I have enough history here with this sort of dialogue... as Einstein said "The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result." Soooo... I guess we know what that says about me...
 
I agree that there is an NA attraction to smaller cartridges for hunting and I agree that you are not at a disadvantage with "more" power... if I may extrapolate and extend the logic, I will take exception with the notion that a sufficient cartridge is a "disadvantage" over a "greater" cartridge... A properly placed bullet with a "sufficient" cartridge will kill as cleanly as a "more than" sufficient cartridge... as always it is the hunters responsibility to stay within the limits of his/her cartridge choice and properly place the bullet... one is not being "foolish" in choosing a .270, 7X57, .308 or .30/06 (well maybe the .270 ;)) to hunt moose, over say, a .300 WM, .338 WM, .375H&H etc...



Challenging oneself is not "ego." I don't give a "ratz azz" how I am looked upon as a hunter... I do care how I feel as a hunter. As a newbie 15 year old deer hunter, I was placed in the sweet spot by our deer hunting party, and on opening morning of my first deer hunt, I shot five deer in under five minutes with my grandfathers tired old .32 Special... it was an exhilarating and highly charged moment, which I remember fondly... all the back slapping and retelling of the tale and the liver and onions that night... but in the days that followed, I began to feel a letdown, like I had missed out on something important in the experience... I had started bowhunting a number of years earlier for non-game species and decided to give bowhunting a "go..." the next fall I arrowed my first big game animal, a black bear, at under five FEET, stalked while feeding on acorns... this started a 40 year love affair with bowhunting, that continues with as much passion today as it did forty years ago... This was not "EGO," this was maximizing the experience, bowhunting forced me to slow down, become more in tune with my surroundings, more knowledgeable about my quarry and its habits and habitat... I learned to stalk within bow range of wild big game animals, to use their own vocalizations and feeding/movement patterns to my advantage, and in doing so, I found the elements that I had missed during that first adrenaline filled experience with grandpa's .32 Spl. If archery gear had not proven itself to be rapidly lethal in harvesting game, I would have abandoned it long ago... the truth is, as any studied bowhunter can attest to, archery gear is as EQUALLY lethal as any cartridge you might choose to hunt with... it just comes with a number of additional elements (handicaps) that must be observed... rather than a 400 yard shot on a bull moose with a .300 WM (or, or, or...) I take a 20 yard shot with a 70 pound bow and broadhead tipped arrow, rather than obliterating the shoulder on a quartering on bull with a .375 H&H, I must wait for a broadside or quartering away posture to open up the lung area to receive my arrow... these are restrictions that I gladly accept, and when circumstances are not right, I let the animal walk and admire the moment... I have been within touching distance of trophy big game animals and never loosed an arrow, such is the nature of the game, and the reason I love it so much... EGO has nothing to do with it...



5) Because it is unnecessary to get the job properly done... "Over"kill is not necessary, "kill" is necessary. Have enough cartridge/bow, practice to become profficient, stay within its limits, take an appropriate shot at and appropriate range, and perform well at the moment of truth... fire up the BBQ.

Good on you and well stated. My right rotator is considerably improved and archery is an aspect of the sport that will get back into focus this coming season.

 
1)Yukon Bison E0 2800 ft/lbs 3796j caliber .30 180 grains 11,66 grammes says 30-06 but 308 win can meet it.

2)Alberta has or had the same as Yukon.

3) BC bison 2712j/ 2000 ft/lbs +175 grains/+ 11,3 grammes said 7mm magnum but 280 and 7x64 meet easily that mini.

4) NWT bison +200grains/+13 grammes 30-06 can meet with Norma or Federal/ Remington factory load ....

seems 30-06 again and again ... lol
 
1)Yukon Bison E0 2800 ft/lbs 3796j caliber .30 180 grains 11,66 grammes says 30-06 but 308 win can meet it.

2)Alberta has or had the same as Yukon.

3) BC bison 2712j/ 2000 ft/lbs +175 grains/+ 11,3 grammes said 7mm magnum but 280 and 7x64 meet easily that mini.

4) NWT bison +200grains/+13 grammes 30-06 can meet with Norma or Federal/ Remington factory load ....

seems 30-06 again and again ... lol

No regulation in Alberta other than .23 calibre or greater.
 
Alaska has a bison minimum.

Rifle/handgun: State regulations require that rifles and handguns must fire a 200-grain or larger bullet, which retains at least 2000 foot-pounds of energy at 100 yards. A .30-06 with a 220-grain bullet is about the minimal weapon that meets this specification. Please do not bring your favorite firearm and expect to use it if it does not meet the above criteria.
 
Someone who will never see a Grizz or Polar Bear, the answer is always going to be in the 30-06 "class". The "Best" all round calibre. You only shoot coyotes, wolves and deer, the .243win. Your talking about what is best all round general for the person shooting what is around him/her. I sure as hell don't need a 8mm Rem Mag for a deer or a coyote. Any one want to consider the number of black bear taken with a 30-30 or 44 Rem mag? "Best" is the calibre needed for an area not the entire continent, and yes I use different rods/reels, lures/baits for fish as well.
 
We've only recently had a bison season that required a licence and was subject to regulations. Maybe 6 years now?

when i was a director of a wildlife board the Albertan guys came here in Yukon to get some feedback they published a pamphlet maybe 2010 about what was done in Yukon and other juridictions and i assumed they followed us but seems not ...
 
So I guess this means I can hunt bison in Alberta with my 234 Douglas............gonna have to tee that hunt up for sure.............Who wants to ride shotgun (read backup) on that hunt? Probably need a resident sponsor, any volunteers?
 
Plain and simple, there is NOTHING on this continent that the .30-06 cannot kill if you do your part. It's the bare minimum caliber most African guides will allow a hunter to bring....
 
Plain and simple, there is NOTHING on this continent that the .30-06 cannot kill if you do your part. It's the bare minimum caliber most African guides will allow a hunter to bring....

We're way past logic and rational thought. By the 4th page we've descended fully into cabin-fever-fuelled minutia.
 
Egos and a$$holes persist, as most totally ignore the OP.

To me, Sheephunter makes the most sense. Although he is a mere mortal, like most of us on here, he does have actual multi-experience that some others wish they had.

Ardent, you said this would be fun.............are you havin' fun yet;)
 
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