The Use of "Stripper Clips" really Sucks!

VuDu666 said:
Probably a lot more than average weekend shooter. I remember first 2-3 blank fire events, shaky hands, adrenaline, having hard time reloading even though I knew it wasn't live ammo. Eventually I got used to it.
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With the C1A1 all our loading was via stripper clip, either on the weapon or with the mag charger. The only time we used single rounds was when it was stripped from MG belts or tracer. Blanks and live were always on clips.
 
paisa184 said:
Where have you taken those classes , sounds Interesting
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The "course" mentioned is not a class but the "course of fire". Ranges vary from 250 to 50 meters(yards). Firing positions are any all that might be found in combat (until recently the last time I dug a fighting position (foxhole) was 45 years ago). Number of rounds fire per course is between 50 and 100. We don't keep formal scores but do informally track hits and time. helmets and web equipment are required.
 
My main issue with using stripper clips is that it involves jamming your soft, fleshy fingers and nails into areas that are populated by hard, sharp, steel edges. Some designs are better than others (my No.5 Mk.1 I find to be particularly nasty) but perhaps I'm just employing improper technique.

They are fast to use however.
 
The only clips/chargers that occasionally rise my ire are those for Lee Enfields. Rather annoyingly I do have the habit of loading them in the charger in a manner that earns me a rim lock every now and then. Of the other the rifles that I do use clips for -- AR-15s, SKS-45s, Mosin-Nagant M91/30s and SVT-40s -- I find them quite handy.
 
If the stripper clips are old and well used, or you have a mag that is retardedly stiff - I can see someone having an issue.

But if your clips are new, and your mag has been 'broken in' - as someone else said - it's slicker than snot!

Abby
 
With Lee Enfields, I've seen people try all kinds of crap to load with chargers. With the rounds in the clip the right way, and loaded into the magazine the right way, you won't get rim locks. I've seen people pick the top round up like a mosin (which is the way to make those buggers work 100%), but you just have to grip the magazine and force down with your thumb, just like with a mauser. Hasn't failed me yet, and you don't hear veteran's complain about it not working. I've never noticed any issues with rimless ammo on chargers, Swedish mausers, anything in 8mm mauser, sks, they are all super easy to feed once you have the hang of it.
 
OP, why are you posting about putting two five round strippers into a FN49. You are admitting on a public forum to having a prohibited device attached to your firearm. Good Grief. I am also surprised your club allows you to use that rifle on their range. If I misread your post I apologize.
 
bearhunter said:
OP, why are you posting about putting two five round strippers into a FN49. You are admitting on a public forum to having a prohibited device attached to your firearm. Good Grief. I am also surprised your club allows you to use that rifle on their range. If I misread your post I apologize.
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He is from the land of the free (unlike us).
 
I would suggest more practice mate, even if it's just with dummy rounds or lining it up right. I have a old surplus Russian SKS and it functions beautifully with strip clips.
 
The Wizard said:
Recently a friend has gotten me into what might be described as "vintage military rifle combat shooting". The way the "course" is setup requires reloads using "stripper clips". The rifles used so far are a M1917 "Enfield", a No. 4, a Yugo M48, a M1 rifle and a FN Model 49. I am finding "stripper clips" really suck! First, a lot of the times it takes a lot of force to strip the rounds off the clip. And on the No. 4 and Model 49 the second 5 rounds are even harder to load. Not only do you have to "fight" the clip but also the magazine spring. Second, I find that when stripping the rounds into the magazine "get out of alignment" and hang up on top of the magazine feed lips. I know I could improve the performance of the clips by pre-selection of the clips to be used but I was wondering about real life. A soldier can not "pre-select" the clips he has to use. Sure glad I got to use magazine fed rifles!
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Op, are you using relatively new stripper clips? I have a SKS, a Lee-Enfield, a K98k, SVT-40, Mosin Nagants and a Norinco M14 that I use stripper clips with and have had no problems
with any except the Mosins.

The Russian-made Mosin chargers seem to work much better than the new Chinese-made ones, but if they're loaded properly its much easier to charge the magazine.

For the most part, a soldier's clips came pre-loaded, and in the case of the Mosin-Nagant and Lee-Enfield, they were loaded as per army specification (_-_-_ in the case of the Lee Enfield).

Sounds like you have some faulty stripper clips!
 
The Wizard said:
I wish I was in Canada. I would challenge you to a friendly race. And as the visiting team I would respect the host country and use C1A1's. Rules: to start with rifles loaded with five rounds. Fire the five rounds, reload twenty rounds. The person who fires first after reloading all twenty rounds wins. You use 4 - 5 round "stripper clips; I will use a fully loaded magazine. Any bets on who wins? By the way all clips used are either in excellence condition or new. Not that easy to "improperly load" most clips. Now the .303 clips are different matter but we insure that the rounds are properly positioned. I agree that with practice things will improve but how much practice did soldiers (1898 to 1950) really get before having to do it "for real"?
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Only problem with that is that all C1s are prohib by name
 
Reference charger loading the Lee Enfield:

Using gloves, insert 5 round stripper clip into charger bridge slots.

Push down forcibly at the rear of the stripper clip.

When your thumb reaches that semi circular cut-out on the receiver, you have loaded your mag successfully.

Repeat.
 
The Wizard said:
Recently a friend has gotten me into what might be described as "vintage military rifle combat shooting". The way the "course" is setup requires reloads using "stripper clips". The rifles used so far are a M1917 "Enfield", a No. 4, a Yugo M48, a M1 rifle and a FN Model 49. I am finding "stripper clips" really suck! First, a lot of the times it takes a lot of force to strip the rounds off the clip. And on the No. 4 and Model 49 the second 5 rounds are even harder to load. Not only do you have to "fight" the clip but also the magazine spring. Second, I find that when stripping the rounds into the magazine "get out of alignment" and hang up on top of the magazine feed lips. I know I could improve the performance of the clips by pre-selection of the clips to be used but I was wondering about real life. A soldier can not "pre-select" the clips he has to use. Sure glad I got to use magazine fed rifles!
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The only thing that I've ever found to suck about stripper clips or chargers, is the impact on my wallet!? As far as for reloading a rifle, this is a very efficient and quick way to get the job done.
 
I have used stripper clips in my FN C1 while in the military and later in my current SKS rifles they worked every time and was a fast reload.
 
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