the word "custom"
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The one I like the best is " it's a real tack driver consistanly shoots 1moa or better" . What I would like to know is when did they start making tacks with 1" heads on them.
Another one that makes me laugh is " shoots like a laser"
To the original poster what the hell does painting your rifle with ceracoat/ duracoat have to do with it being a custom? Look at all the high dollar custom benchrest rifles , they are mostly polished stainless but according to you they are not custom rifles because they are not tacticooled with matt finish paint.
Another one that makes me laugh is " shoots like a laser"
To the original poster what the hell does painting your rifle with ceracoat/ duracoat have to do with it being a custom? Look at all the high dollar custom benchrest rifles , they are mostly polished stainless but according to you they are not custom rifles because they are not tacticooled with matt finish paint.
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To me custom is a build in which you do not used any part of a mass produced (big name, large volume) manufacturer.....
Aftermarket parts are all that are used.
Using Rem, Savage or Tikka parts is a semi custom.....
I feel custom gets used out of context to "fit in" with the true custom crowd.
Aftermarket parts are all that are used.
Using Rem, Savage or Tikka parts is a semi custom.....
I feel custom gets used out of context to "fit in" with the true custom crowd.
Oh ... hey heres another one...
Dude shoots a 2 inch group with 5 shots, but tells you its a 1 MOA gun because he caused the flyer.
Oh.. ya... I pulled that one.... (famous last words)
But hey,,, It will shoot 1 inch groups... "if I do my part"
Dude shoots a 2 inch group with 5 shots, but tells you its a 1 MOA gun because he caused the flyer.
Oh.. ya... I pulled that one.... (famous last words)
But hey,,, It will shoot 1 inch groups... "if I do my part"
Agreed, there are no "fliers" or "pulled shots". You either hit what you wanted to or didn't.
There are probably a lot more capable guns out there than there are capable shooters.
Custom, stock, semi-custom, copper tube that shoots potatoes with hairspray; it either shoots or it doesn't and it shouldn't matter how "custom" it is.
I find it funny how people get bent out of shape on stuff like this. They feel things need to fit into all their little tidy OCD boxes. The term "custom" by definition, can be used to describe so many things. Wanting or needing it to fit your description exactly is pretty snobish.
But don't worry gear snobs, everyone still understands all the brand names and costs associated with the gear that makes you feel superior. (My favourite type to beat in a match lol!)
But don't worry gear snobs, everyone still understands all the brand names and costs associated with the gear that makes you feel superior. (My favourite type to beat in a match lol!)
The way I figure it is if you call up Remington and ask them to put blued filler screws in a stainless gun for you and you receive that gun. Its custom. You called up the manufacturer and got them to do something different then what they ship out. If you do that yourself its personalized.
Michael Dempster
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To my way of thinking there are two elements necessary for a firearm to be considered custom. First is that the combination of elements that make up the firearm are not available in an off the rack gun, and secondly, that the piece is made to the specifications demanded by the customer. I have 3 rifles and a handgun that I would consider semi-custom, and have had another three that qualify as full custom.
The semi-custom groups includes my M-70 Express in .458, the factory barrel as cut down to 21" and the LOP 13.5" with a Decelerator recoil pad. My ZG-46 .30/06 had a small crack behind the tang, so while this as being repaired, I had the action bedded, and cross bolts installed in the factory stock. My second 602 was, like the first one, chambered in .375 Ultra, but because I retained the factory barrel, I consider it semi-custom despite the McMillan stock, and NECG sights. My primary ATC gun is a semi-custom Ruger Vaquero .44 magnum. Aside from an trigger job, it as dehorned, meaning the sharp edges were broken, and the front of the trigger guard narrowed to prevent a blackened fingernail. I had considered a lanyard ring, but decided it would be under utilized. The grip frame and stocks remain factory, and the sights weren't messed with. I put a Magpul SGA stock on my 590 Mossberg, which dramatically improved the the gun's handling and shooting, and to me qualifies as an improvement, but not as customizing.
My full customs include a couple of 700 Remingtons, the first was my short action .308 target rifle; McMillan A-5 stock with an Anschutz rail, Krieger 1:8 .308 #5 target contour barrel, trued action, Jewell trigger, Dlask bolt handle, single shot adaptor, PH bi-pod.
The other is a work in progress, a switch barrel 700 long action, with Ron Smith gain twist barrels; a 24" 1:7 .243, 1:8 a 24" .280 Ackley, and a 22" 1:10 .375 Scoville, all unfluted stainless #3 sporting contour. The .375 is the only one with irons, an NECG barrel band brass faced post that will be used with an XS Weaver ghost ring attached to the Near rail. Of the three, so far I've only shot the .243, which feeds smoothly from the magazine, and without issue through the long action, and the 90 gr Scenar/Lapua brass/N550/CCI BR-2 combination grouped 3 holes touching . . . at 200 yards, several times. Not bad for a light hunting rifle. The rifle was bedded in a Wildcat stock, but due to a minor misadventure, the stock was damaged, and an HS Precision stock will take its place, I wanted another McMillan but the price has doubled. If the HSP stock doesn't work out, I might have to bite the bullet eventually.
My Brno 602 qualifies as a full custom; 20" Ron Smith fluted barrel chambered in .375 Ultra, pillar and glass bedded into a cross bolted McMillan stock, knuckle deflector, custom quarter rib inletted for Talley QD rings for a scout scope, and a Talley base installed on the rear bridge to accommodate a Talley ghost ring. This was my go to rifle, it got carried almost daily, and shot a lot.
The semi-custom groups includes my M-70 Express in .458, the factory barrel as cut down to 21" and the LOP 13.5" with a Decelerator recoil pad. My ZG-46 .30/06 had a small crack behind the tang, so while this as being repaired, I had the action bedded, and cross bolts installed in the factory stock. My second 602 was, like the first one, chambered in .375 Ultra, but because I retained the factory barrel, I consider it semi-custom despite the McMillan stock, and NECG sights. My primary ATC gun is a semi-custom Ruger Vaquero .44 magnum. Aside from an trigger job, it as dehorned, meaning the sharp edges were broken, and the front of the trigger guard narrowed to prevent a blackened fingernail. I had considered a lanyard ring, but decided it would be under utilized. The grip frame and stocks remain factory, and the sights weren't messed with. I put a Magpul SGA stock on my 590 Mossberg, which dramatically improved the the gun's handling and shooting, and to me qualifies as an improvement, but not as customizing.
My full customs include a couple of 700 Remingtons, the first was my short action .308 target rifle; McMillan A-5 stock with an Anschutz rail, Krieger 1:8 .308 #5 target contour barrel, trued action, Jewell trigger, Dlask bolt handle, single shot adaptor, PH bi-pod.
The other is a work in progress, a switch barrel 700 long action, with Ron Smith gain twist barrels; a 24" 1:7 .243, 1:8 a 24" .280 Ackley, and a 22" 1:10 .375 Scoville, all unfluted stainless #3 sporting contour. The .375 is the only one with irons, an NECG barrel band brass faced post that will be used with an XS Weaver ghost ring attached to the Near rail. Of the three, so far I've only shot the .243, which feeds smoothly from the magazine, and without issue through the long action, and the 90 gr Scenar/Lapua brass/N550/CCI BR-2 combination grouped 3 holes touching . . . at 200 yards, several times. Not bad for a light hunting rifle. The rifle was bedded in a Wildcat stock, but due to a minor misadventure, the stock was damaged, and an HS Precision stock will take its place, I wanted another McMillan but the price has doubled. If the HSP stock doesn't work out, I might have to bite the bullet eventually.
My Brno 602 qualifies as a full custom; 20" Ron Smith fluted barrel chambered in .375 Ultra, pillar and glass bedded into a cross bolted McMillan stock, knuckle deflector, custom quarter rib inletted for Talley QD rings for a scout scope, and a Talley base installed on the rear bridge to accommodate a Talley ghost ring. This was my go to rifle, it got carried almost daily, and shot a lot.
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Here we go political correctness getting in the way of common sense.
Who gives a crap if someone calls their rifle a custom, modified, highly modified or whatever. As long as they don't make it wear a dress and ask for the legal right to be joined in matrimony with it then this is trivial.
Who gives a crap if someone calls their rifle a custom, modified, highly modified or whatever. As long as they don't make it wear a dress and ask for the legal right to be joined in matrimony with it then this is trivial.
I don't know. But I know 3 prominent members just went pink. No more Mister donut, Nester, or Suputin. Not sure if it's related, but two of them were posting here lately.
