The World's Most Reliable Handgun

acm said:
See, that's the other thing. I don't own a 1911, but could definitely see buying a beater, just because I find the mechanics of them facinating. The more I get into working on my own pistols, the more I think that building a 1911 would be a project I would take on. Glocks have never really appealed in that respect, because even the "Glock build" threads are largely nothing more than parts swapping. I don't really find a pistol made up of off the shelf parts traded in all that interesting, but when someone pulls a DA trigger that I've put a couple hours into with "stones and sandpaper" & says "Holy crap! How did you get your trigger like that?", I DO take a measure of satisfaction.
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I had a S&W 629 4"BBL, that came with target trigger and target hammer both wide. I used a S&W 586 6" for PPC and it was good factory but whoever picked up the the 629 said omg who worked that action. No one did, so i dont know if the extra listed items meant they spent more time on the action or not.It gave me at least the starting impression of trigger craftsmanship. Maybe some S&W knowledgeable Revolver shooters can help. This would be around 1985/86era?:)
 
I've asked this question, I think everybody has asked this question... but for some people it was asked so long ago that they don't remember ;)

I'm very far from an expert, but the conclusion that I've come to is this. 90% of the people who ask which company makes the most reliable firearm, are focused on the firearm DESIGN, or on the firearm MATERIALS in a general sense. Example: which is better, single action or DA/SA? Polymer or Steel?

As far as I can tell, it's all about the same. Personal preference cancels out differences in design philosophy among the large manufacturers as they stand today, they're all good designs.

So what is left to choose between them assuming you don't know yet what your personal preference is? Go with the company that you have the most confidence in the QUALITY CONTROL of. Any pistol design made with the best available materials and the best quality control will be better than ANY pistol made sloppily. Steel or poly, go with what you like. But which company do you trust to have the most consistency, the most thorough treatment of metals, the least likelihood of letting a lemon slip out of the factory? Focus on quality control instead of design, and who you trust the most as a manufacturer, regardless of their personal philosophy of design, because at the end of the day, all the major pistol models have been well proven when they were well made.
 
Redlich said:
I've asked this question, I think everybody has asked this question... but for some people it was asked so long ago that they don't remember ;)

I'm very far from an expert, but the conclusion that I've come to is this. 90% of the people who ask which company makes the most reliable firearm, are focused on the firearm DESIGN, or on the firearm MATERIALS in a general sense. Example: which is better, single action or DA/SA? Polymer or Steel?

As far as I can tell, it's all about the same. Personal preference cancels out differences in design philosophy among the large manufacturers as they stand today, they're all good designs.

So what is left to choose between them assuming you don't know yet what your personal preference is? Go with the company that you have the most confidence in the QUALITY CONTROL of. Any pistol design made with the best available materials and the best quality control will be better than ANY pistol made sloppily. Steel or poly, go with what you like. But which company do you trust to have the most consistency, the most thorough treatment of metals, the least likelihood of letting a lemon slip out of the factory? Focus on quality control instead of design, and who you trust the most as a manufacturer, regardless of their personal philosophy of design, because at the end of the day, all the major pistol models have been well proven when they were well made.
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Great post!:agree: We do get caught up in the Toyota versus the Nissan banter, but thats the spice of life, i guess.:wave:
 
Guns are very much like cars.
Often times you get ####ty model years and good model years.
Some model years are best to avoid.
Even in the good model years, you get a few lemons.
 
TDC said:
Really? The performance you and your friend experienced is not related to the tool used, its the shooter. Claiming polymer guns are crap because your friend can't shoot is neither scientific nor factual evidence that polymer guns suck. The same goes for your performance with a metal/steel framed gun.

TDC
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I am shaped like a ballistic missile and you are shaped like a cannonball - therefore your argument is irrelevant...:jerkit:
 
It would be the gun that you could considerate as the natural extension of your arm. For me, it is my P08 Artillery.
 
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