The Year of the magazine, RCMP Info sheet

Wiskey1 said:
neither the RCMP or the Government will EVER be able to get rid of guns,it's a complete impossiblity,oh,,they can write laws,ban this gun and that gun,try to scare gun owners ,whatever,doesn't change a damn thing,fact is,,all these millions of gun in the country right now,,are here to stay,,the days of the RCMP and government trying to scare guns away from gun owners are long gone,gun owners of today know EXACTLY why these anti-gun nazis want the populatrion unarmed,so their pipe dream of disarming gun owners simply because of laws they write,is just that,,a dream,,one that will NEVER come true,so at the end of the day..all these guns will STAY in private hands,,and there isn't a damn thing they can do about it,and the fact that the registry is gone means they dont have a clue where 95% of these guns are today..all that information became irrelevant the very next day the registry was abolished,and you can bet they hate that,,
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I hope you are right but in fact.

Quebec have vote to registry , Ontario will have one shortly, and many will follow. You already know why they do it !
 
Does this mean even that I hold a 12[5] that I still need to pin my mags . For what I understand the mags that hold over 10 is now classed prohibited
 
Deckard said:
Very strange question and comment.
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Deckard if you are referring to my Question don't know whats strange about it . Always told by all gun teacher on courses that there is never a question to odd to ask when it come to fire arms. If you find it strange that I would presume you don't know the answer unless I am asking it in the wrong way .
 
gunrunner3 said:
Deckard if you are referring to my Question don't know whats strange about it . Always told by all gun teacher on courses that there is never a question to odd to ask when it come to fire arms. If you find it strange that I would presume you don't know the answer unless I am asking it in the wrong way .
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I am of the understanding that regardless of the class of licence you have (except businesses) all centre fire mags for semi and/or automatic rifles have to be pinned to five rounds.
Stefan
 
I am referring to the rim fire new law . The gun that I am talking about is 22 long and the mag holds more than 10 This gun is already classed as prohibited ,but what I was asking now this new law comes in will it affect the way it stands now.

Thanks
 
gunrunner3 said:
I am referring to the rim fire new law . The gun that I am talking about is 22 long and the mag holds more than 10 This gun is already classed as prohibited ,but what I was asking now this new law comes in will it affect the way it stands now.

Thanks
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The RCMP are re-interpreting the law to suit political purposes and to chip away at the liberties and rights of firearms owners. The Act and Regs have not changed.
Very basically, they are saying that a rimfire mag that holds more than 10 rounds (eg/ butler creek 25) that is designed to fit a platform that is a rifle (10/22), but which also can be used in that same platform in handgun configuration (Ruger Charger) is prohibited...despite the fact that a mag like the butler creek 25 was designed for and intended to be used in rifles.

And they appear to be stating that these mags have always been prohibited! But it took them 30+ yrs to figure it out, during which time about a million were quite legally imported into our country and sold to the public. But now they're "clarifying" the issue for us.
To serve and protect, right?
 
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gunrunner3 said:
Does this mean even that I hold a 12[5] that I still need to pin my mags . For what I understand the mags that hold over 10 is now classed prohibited
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Yes, magazines with a capacity over 5/10 are what are known as PROHIBITED DEVICES, and have another license which is impossible to get from the RCMP as a regular joe.

Firearms businesses and manufacturers are able to get Prohibited Devices, although generally it's for law enforcement purposes.
 
awesome how they "tergiversate" (to intentionally and deliberately withhold information [essential to the endeavor at hand, with the underlying purpose of misleading others by its omission]) section 3 (2) of part 4 says:

Paragraph (1)(a) does not include any cartridge magazine that

(a) was originally designed or manufactured for use in a firearm that

(i) is chambered for, or designed to use, rimfire cartridges,


worse than politicians.
 
My understanding was 12/5 was only for shorter then 105mm handguns, not magazine capacities?

Although I could be wrong and if so please excuse me, but having a prohibited license would not give someone the right to legally use prohibited magazines (excluding firearms business' etc. approved for that) if that is in fact your question?


gunrunner3 said:
Does this mean even that I hold a 12[5] that I still need to pin my mags . For what I understand the mags that hold over 10 is now classed prohibited
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Finally if Gunrunner3 you're referring to the Ruger 10/22 magazine capacity regulation change of which this thread is about; then as far as I can tell (and Mr.Wolverine who is an expert on firearms subjects like these) this regulation change to the Ruger 10/22 rifles capacity limit is not yet legally changed (as Mr. Wolverine states in the beginning of this thread) in that my understanding is it's not officially on record as being correctly introduced into our Canadian federal firearms laws and regulations data base as of Friday July 29th, 2016.
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I however am in no way an expert on this subject just a fellow firearms enthusiast trying to make sense of yet another example of our fine RCMP spending time and (our taxpayers) money on another firearms regulation that will do nothing to make our streets any safer, but will however make a bigger mess of our firearms laws/reg.'s... (along with making thousands of law abiding firearms owners criminals overnight).

Cheers D
 
The RCMP knows the address of every PAL/RPAL holder but has yet failed to mail out a notice to each and every one of them. They should have to do this each time they "make a law", that should put a little dent in their budget.
 
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November 19, 2015

Joe Zasda's letter to MPs re "Year of the Magazine".
http://dennisryoung.ca/wp-content/u...sadas-Letter-to-his-MP-Magazine-Situation.pdf

As well, I have learned that Murray Smith (Manager, Specialized Firearms Support Services, Firearms Investigative and Enforcement Services Directorate, Canadian Firearms Program, RCMP) was heard referring to this as "The Year of the Magazine" at CANSEC just a few months ago. Allegedly this is a reference to an ongoing effort by the RCMP to limit LAR-15, Beowulf, and similar magazines' use.​
 
Would like to thank everyone on their replays The gun that I have is a AK-47 in 22 long with a mag more than 10 rounds. When all this started years ago I have to take this gun to my chief firearms officer to have it inspected even with the mag it was cleared by the RCMP
 
gunrunner3 said:
Would like to thank everyone on their replays The gun that I have is a AK-47 in 22 long with a mag more than 10 rounds. When all this started years ago I have to take this gun to my chief firearms officer to have it inspected even with the mag it was cleared by the RCMP
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What Year and Month did the firearms officer look at it?

- Before 2008
- 2008-2013
- after 2013-09 (i.e. after Bulletin 72)
 
WhOiS said:
I hope you are right but in fact.

Quebec have vote to registry , Ontario will have one shortly, and many will follow. You already know why they do it !
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unfortunately for them is the fact that 95% of firearms will remain UNREGISTERED no matter what registry they come up with,,and a provincial registry isn't worth the paper it's printed on,i know many Quebec resident who will be in possession of BORROWED firearms,no law against THAT,,
 
steamy teabag said:
Tell that to the tens of thousands that lost property when the FA Act and classification came into force. Classification, not registration, is the battle we all collectively face.
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that was THEN,this is NOW,a whole different world today.and firearms owners know full well what the intent is,i can tell you,when the first registry came around,,they thought they would scare gun owners into compliance with threats of jail time,no matter what they threatened,nothing worked,the RCMP where furious at the level of non compliance,and after year after year of them extending their amnesty period,no more than 15% of firearms known to have been in the country were ever registered,LOL..no matter the threats,gun owners even back then knew what to do to keep their property,very easily confirmed by the amount of hidden prohibited gun and machine guns found today that have been hidden by owners for 30 years,so in the world of today,and the easy information age,i doubt they would even get to 15%,so that leaves a whole lot of guns out there they dont know who owns them or where they are,so where is the increase in public safety to come from a registry,,
 
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