Okay, so we all know that "5" rounds of the largest size shotshell the shotgun is designed for is the legal magazine capacity for a semi-auto shotgun here in Canada. So, say you have a Super Black Eagle II, chambered in 3.5" 12 gauge, 5 round magazine capacity in 3.5". Starting off with a round in the chamber, how many 2.75" rounds can you load in the gun before you start shooting? What is the absolute max? You can even "ghost" a round for an extra.
Theoretical maximum LEGAL number of 2.75" shells loaded into a semi-auto shotgun
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So, with one in the chamber and one "ghosted" you wind up with 9 rounds?
Cool. Might have to make a SBE II my next shotgun.
You have to carefully check the shotgun to see if you can ghost rounds. Not all do. Benelli's are good stuff and my personal favourites for semis.
I don't believe you can do that with a Rem 1187 and 1100. I will try and advise.
Can you do that with a Benelli without any bolt modifications?
I'd try myself but I don't have any snap caps here and I won't be going to the range for a while with this weather what it is so I can't try for myself right yet.
I have used that exact set-up you`re asking about.
SBE II
SBE barrel cut down to 18.5 and threaded for chokes
TacStar mag extension flush with end of barrel just over 9 inches long.
JB weld in the bolt notch.
Holds 5 3.5 shells in the mag with a bit of extra space. 6 will not go.
Holds 7, 2.75 plus float one and pipe one. ( 9 total and legal)
I`d like to print of the page that say`s the rule about the biggest ammo the gun is designed for, for the fudds at the range, but could never find it.
SBE II
SBE barrel cut down to 18.5 and threaded for chokes
TacStar mag extension flush with end of barrel just over 9 inches long.
JB weld in the bolt notch.
Holds 5 3.5 shells in the mag with a bit of extra space. 6 will not go.
Holds 7, 2.75 plus float one and pipe one. ( 9 total and legal)
I`d like to print of the page that say`s the rule about the biggest ammo the gun is designed for, for the fudds at the range, but could never find it.
So, if you don't mind my asking, Drillbit, what does a setup like that cost, in total, in the neighborhood of?
Where do you get the mag extension? Did it take much hassle to get it so it would not quite accommodate the 6th 3.5" round?
Thanks for the info.
Where do you get the mag extension? Did it take much hassle to get it so it would not quite accommodate the 6th 3.5" round?
Thanks for the info.
The gun was 1600 plus tax, so 1800.
The barrel was used on the ee for 350.
Cost 150 to get it cut down, new bead, thread for chokes,+ 2 chokes.
Mag ex was 60 in the US (years ago). Haven`t seen one up here.
Not a cheap rig, but cheaper than some of the other stuff out there and very versatile.
The TacStar mag ext fits right on and will only hold 5, 3.5`s without any mods. On a M2, it would be too long though. The total outside length is 9 and 3 eigths. Had one stopped in the mail at the border due to the packaging a few years ago.
I`ve also tried to shorten a tube before by denting it for an 11-87, and it didn`work out too well, the follower would pinch and hang up.
There is also the factory Benelli +1 in Canada, but it is $130 and then the mag will only hold 5 2.75`s.
If you want to shorten a barrel you should go with a SBE barrel, and not a SBE II. The vent rib is attatched differently and the SBE II barrels vent rib would have to end about 4 inches from the front if it was cut off. The regular sbe rib works out good, but it isn`t drilled and tapped. If that`s important for mounting a rail, it would have to be done, which isn`t a big deal.
If you have any more questions I`ll do my best for ya.
Also, for the guys wondering what guns can ghost or float a shell, a Vinci won`t, tried everything.
The barrel was used on the ee for 350.
Cost 150 to get it cut down, new bead, thread for chokes,+ 2 chokes.
Mag ex was 60 in the US (years ago). Haven`t seen one up here.
Not a cheap rig, but cheaper than some of the other stuff out there and very versatile.
The TacStar mag ext fits right on and will only hold 5, 3.5`s without any mods. On a M2, it would be too long though. The total outside length is 9 and 3 eigths. Had one stopped in the mail at the border due to the packaging a few years ago.
I`ve also tried to shorten a tube before by denting it for an 11-87, and it didn`work out too well, the follower would pinch and hang up.
There is also the factory Benelli +1 in Canada, but it is $130 and then the mag will only hold 5 2.75`s.
If you want to shorten a barrel you should go with a SBE barrel, and not a SBE II. The vent rib is attatched differently and the SBE II barrels vent rib would have to end about 4 inches from the front if it was cut off. The regular sbe rib works out good, but it isn`t drilled and tapped. If that`s important for mounting a rail, it would have to be done, which isn`t a big deal.
If you have any more questions I`ll do my best for ya.
Also, for the guys wondering what guns can ghost or float a shell, a Vinci won`t, tried everything.
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can anyone quote from the firearms act where it states that the max 5 round capacity applies to the longest shell length the gun can accommodate? or is this all just conjecture like the PGO <12.5" shotguns?
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Here is an email response from the RCMP Firearms Technologies Section with regards to my email about increasing the length on my Benelli M4 to allow 6 x 3" shells:
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^thank you.
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If you would like me to forward you the actual email, PM me with your email address.
