They Got The Bear That Killed Hunter
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BigUglyMan
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Is there anyone that actually believes that the bear was hunting the dead man? I mean, really now! No one knows what happens in the bush but let's say that someone out in the bush slips, falls and breaks their neck. A bear and cubs happens along and eats the body. Does that make them some sort fo evil? What if you fall in a river and drown and the fish eat you? Let's face it, we're not at the top of the food chain out there. If you go out into the wild places, you do so at your own potential peril.
And the forest will be safe for the bunny-huggers and hikers.
And the forest will be safe for the bunny-huggers and hikers.
Condolences to the friends and family of the fellow hunter.
For once a govt agency went in and did the right thing efficiently.
I do have my doubts about letting those cubs live if they have been taught to hunt humans. Maybe more politics than practical decision making there.
I wonder if they could have, or did tag them?
Cudos to someone for having the guts to do their job regardless of all the whining a-holes.
For once a govt agency went in and did the right thing efficiently.
I do have my doubts about letting those cubs live if they have been taught to hunt humans. Maybe more politics than practical decision making there.
I wonder if they could have, or did tag them?
Cudos to someone for having the guts to do their job regardless of all the whining a-holes.
This wasn't the bush guys. It was a farm in an area that has been farms for decades and that hasn't seen grizzlies for decades. He was killed in a 20-25 acre woodlot completely isolated from the wilderness, less than a mile from a busy highway. Robert Wagner didn't enter the bear's territory. The bear entered ours. My wife's family knew the guy quite well. I teach his relatives. The bears killed and ATE him. Autopsy proved that he was alive when attacked. All 4 should be shot. The 3 cubs will likely be transplanted to Wilmore where they can roam and view the few humans that enter the area as prey.
Pyro,
Land owners in AB can shoot and kill any black bear on sight with no repercussions or even the need to report it. We've lots of blackies. They must report grizzly kills but even then are rarely charged if the bear was threatening livestock or people. Had a student whose dad shot a grizz under his deck last spring. This was EAST of highway 22 for those who know the area.
K98,
Don't be such a dumb #### when you don't have any of the facts. You're as bad as the antis.
Pyro,
Land owners in AB can shoot and kill any black bear on sight with no repercussions or even the need to report it. We've lots of blackies. They must report grizzly kills but even then are rarely charged if the bear was threatening livestock or people. Had a student whose dad shot a grizz under his deck last spring. This was EAST of highway 22 for those who know the area.
K98,
Don't be such a dumb #### when you don't have any of the facts. You're as bad as the antis.
ah, well thanks for telling me about that , i didnt know the laws about killing bears, mainly cause i dont hunt so i never looked into any of it. but ill keep it in mind
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- Vancouver Island BC
Every time you get out of the truck in bear country you need remind yourself, I'm now on the dinner menu.
It's a risk we choose to take but seldom think about.
It's a risk we choose to take but seldom think about.
Some years ago down in the waterton area a sow killed and ate someone with her cubs. The cubs then killed a couple of people few years later. I like bears and don't hunt them but in this case killing the sow and cubs is likely the best thing to be done.
Killing the bear is the only sane choice. Unfortunately, a few people on this site seem to feel that it's better to let a man killer live and to call other people names. Unfortunate that this level of misinformation is still out there.
99.9 percent of bears are quite happy to leave humans alone given a chance. And that's a good thing. But there is the tiny little .01 percent that won't.
It's just like humans. Most people aren't agressive or hostile as long as you're not bugging them - but there's that small percent of our population who's just not on that program.
In humans they become violent offenders. With bears they become killers, and they teach the cubs to kill too.
Only one thing you can do - destroy them. You remove the gene from the pool, and you eliminate a hostile threat so that humans and bears can go back to living in peace.
Such bears cannot be 'rehabilitated' or 'taught the error of their ways'. They are and should be destroyed. That keeps EVERYONE safer, other bears included. It's not about punishing the bear - it's about what needs to happen to remove a problem.
It's sad that there are still some folk out there like k98 who get their knowledge of bears from Disney movies. There is absolutely no chance of having a sing-a-long with the bear and everyone being friends afterwards. The bear is a human-killer and is teaching it's cubs to be as well. It had to be destroyed, and chances are the cubs should be as well. It's the only way to be sure.
99.9 percent of bears are quite happy to leave humans alone given a chance. And that's a good thing. But there is the tiny little .01 percent that won't.
It's just like humans. Most people aren't agressive or hostile as long as you're not bugging them - but there's that small percent of our population who's just not on that program.
In humans they become violent offenders. With bears they become killers, and they teach the cubs to kill too.
Only one thing you can do - destroy them. You remove the gene from the pool, and you eliminate a hostile threat so that humans and bears can go back to living in peace.
Such bears cannot be 'rehabilitated' or 'taught the error of their ways'. They are and should be destroyed. That keeps EVERYONE safer, other bears included. It's not about punishing the bear - it's about what needs to happen to remove a problem.
It's sad that there are still some folk out there like k98 who get their knowledge of bears from Disney movies. There is absolutely no chance of having a sing-a-long with the bear and everyone being friends afterwards. The bear is a human-killer and is teaching it's cubs to be as well. It had to be destroyed, and chances are the cubs should be as well. It's the only way to be sure.
Ok, thanks for the facts on the situation, as you know the media has NOT reported the facts and caused quite a lot of confusion about what really happened. I wish they would stop bull ####ting the public and just tell it like it is.
After reading the info here, it appears that YES this Bear was actively stalking. Also I now also think if this is the case then the cubs MUST be destroyed too, as they have been taught to hunt humans.
So why do any of you think this Sow got the idea to come into our habitat and track a human for food? Any thoughts why it changed tactics. Does anyone know what the condition of the downed bear was?
I assume that by posting the above, your earlier post below is retracted as well?
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one thing i pick up every time there is a discussion about animals instinctually hunting and killing a person, and then the animal subsequently being killed because of it .
why do we not subject murderers to the same treatment ? animals do this because they need to eat, and we subject them to capital punishment because of this, they dont know that its wrong to kill a person ( note: only by our standards is it wrong to kill a person ) . yet when a person intentionally rapes murders and defiles the body of a 15 year old girl, he has rights ? and in the eyes of many it would be wrong to put them to death for their actions
i find it sad that we are so quick to kill and condone the killing of a wild animal doing what it needs when we wont follow suit on our own
just a thought
why do we not subject murderers to the same treatment ? animals do this because they need to eat, and we subject them to capital punishment because of this, they dont know that its wrong to kill a person ( note: only by our standards is it wrong to kill a person ) . yet when a person intentionally rapes murders and defiles the body of a 15 year old girl, he has rights ? and in the eyes of many it would be wrong to put them to death for their actions
i find it sad that we are so quick to kill and condone the killing of a wild animal doing what it needs when we wont follow suit on our own
just a thought
By the way there are many too that would want to see a killing rapist hung from the nearest tree. We're not all liberal yahoos.
Years and years of Liberal indoctrination and social manipulation.
As mentioned there are many members here who wish for the death penalty to be reintroduced in Canada for convicted murderers and rapists.
Good grief - we do not 'punish' the animal at ALL. What - you think the bear learned it's lesson and won't do that again?
We destroy an animal that's dangerous. That's it. You can't anthropomorphize animals that way. They're not people in furry suits, they're bears.
The reason we don't do it with humans is two fold. First - humans can be reasoned with and communicated with. There is a chance of rehab and also there are more complex reasons why they might have done violence. A guy who killed a man in a fight when he came home and caught him in bed with his wife may never re-offend again. It's different.
But the most important reason is that sane people who care for freedom Are ALWAYS very reluctant to give the State the power of life and death over it's 'citizens'. That leads to such huge potential for abuse it's not even funny.
Sure - in a perfect world we'd be able to detect those monsters who simply can't ever be rehab'd and know that with certainty and kill them. Same as with the bears. But in the real world, there are far too many cases of wrongful conviction to allow that, and if it were allowed too easily then sooner or later there would be a gov't that would abuse it. Stalin was a big fan of capital punishment i hear
Hitler kinda liked it too You just can't give the state that kind of power safely.
