things to do before course / PAL?

You're right about the "Cheap Tricycle" thing ... 22LR is an entry level tool.

One thing to keep in mind is that there is no limit for magazine capacity for a semi-auto rimfire.

The Rugger 10/22 has a ton of hi-capacity aftermarket accessories.

Any center fire rifle will create a limit on how many bullets you can fire before you reload.
 
ATT no PITA

BP7 said:
actually i've been looking at the (long-winded) ATT process, and i'm thinking of starting with a rifle instead
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Don't let this scare you away from restricteds. I thought it would be a royal PITA, but all I had to do was ask for a long term ATT, and fax a copy of my membership card to the CFO. Nothing to it.

I can't believe I waited so long.
 
GMC Trucker said:
Don't let this scare you away from restricteds. I thought it would be a royal PITA, but all I had to do was ask for a long term ATT, and fax a copy of my membership card to the CFO. Nothing to it.

I can't believe I waited so long.
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Not so simple in Ontario. You gotta go through a club.

But I agree with the general sentiment: paperwork shouldn't prevent you from enjoying the wonderful world of restricted firearms. It's really not as bad as it seems. You just gotta be patient.
 
I know what you mean about the .22 lr making sense on the one hand and getting into some bigger stuff on the other hand. Even stepping up to a .17 rimfire about quadruples the price per practice round.

It seems you're got the kid in a candy store thing going on - pistols are cool, accurate rifles are cool, shooting lots of 22 must be a good thing etc. - I don't mean this as an insult, rather, welcome to the addiction!

You'll have lots of time still to figure out what interests you most. One thing is that for a lot of people, one really nice gun can be as enjoyable to own as a bunch of poorer guns.

Maybe starting off with a really accurate 22 rifle suits your needs and interests? A savage is likely to be pretty accurate at the entry level side of things, and if nicer wood and finish is important to you, a CZ is a thought too. That might satisfy your accuracy interest. Same logic goes for pistols, I think. ... really just thinking out loud here based on the various things you've written combined with my own perspectives. Have fun.

If the .22-250 interests you, and a CF rifle is in your future, look into getting a 223 - just a wee step back on velocity and much more available ammo until you get into handloading.

Any hunting interests? That could change the considerations quite a lot.

RG

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ya, i think i might have the kind-in-candy-store thing going on! :p everything is cool, i want it all, but i'm not a millionaire yet and don't have a PAL.

currently, the things that do interest me are .17HMR and 9mm rounds. one for sneaky-sniper-target shooting, and the other for close-medium range speed and accuracy. ok, maybe the 17HMR isn't ideal for that, but i'm guessing the 9mm is good.

and i have ZERO hunting interests - i'll kill annoying flies, but not birds or squirrels or anything. but i'll eat beef n fish n chicken! :p hypocrite, i know.
 
BP7 said:
one thing that my newbie-brain can't let go of is the "cheap tricycle" of 22LR. oh, i know it's probably the best overall spot to start, but part of me would rather start with something a notch or two more "ambitious" (and suck up the cost - it's not like i spend my $$$ on booze and smokes anyways, so i can afford to spend a bit on ammo)
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I started off buying a 9mm. Within 2 weeks of me buying it, I'd spent what the gun was worth again on ammo. Saved up & bought a .22 Haven't spent what I paid for the gun on ammo yet. Over 2000 shots fired. Life is good...

Of course, the 9mm is fun...:)
 
tritium4ever said:
Clearly you don't have an SKS. :D :ar15:
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Heh, I was about to mention that my brother recently aquired his licence (including restricted) and his first gun was not a .22 but rather an SKS!! The thing is super reliable, hella fun, and has decently sized dirt cheap ammo! After the sks my bro aquired a TT-33 Tokarev (7.62 x 25), which is also a damn cool non .22 firearm

after having tons of fun accomanying my bro to the range, i am now also considering getting my licence, and am liking Puma 22LR (looks kinda like a PPSh) as a first gun

yeah, we`re into guns made by the ruskies, go figure.

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Also, that`s a 50 round drum, and from what I understand doesn`t jam as much as the ones for ruger 10/22`s
 
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In my case, the ATT process was pretty simple for Ontario. Took the training for the pistol club and joined. The next day, the club wanted to apply for my ATT but I asked them to wait untill I purchased a handgun.

Made the purchase and had the ATT (fax copy) in less than a week from the club. It was a little less than 2 weeks from joining the club to having a copy of my ATT in hand.

I was impressed and very happy with my pistol club.

Cactus
 
Cactus said:
In my case, the ATT process was pretty simple for Ontario. Took the training for the pistol club and joined. The next day, the club wanted to apply for my ATT but I asked them to wait untill I purchased a handgun.

Made the purchase and had the ATT (fax copy) in less than a week from the club. It was a little less than 2 weeks from joining the club to having a copy of my ATT in hand.

I was impressed and very happy with my pistol club.

Cactus
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Which club is that if you don't mind me asking?
 
During the PAL test, my instructor asked me to `cross a fence' with a rifle. I did everything right except pointed the rifle at the wall I wasn't supposed to..... he failed me. Watch that one....... Passed later of course.
 
.22rf ain't the "cheap tricycle." It is the learn to shoot caliber, of all disciplines. In shooting, only hits count. .22rf allows you to learn how to master the techniques, without the annoying, distracting, and obscuring effects of recoil, and excess noise. Bullseye teaches these techniques best, and allows an impartial measure of how well you are progressing. If, after learning how to get hits, you choose to take up one of the action sports, (you have said you don't intent to hunt, so you need not sweat getting rifle shots off accurately and swiftly), you need only learn presentation, and a compressed trigger squeeze.

Start with a boomer, and you may never learn how to shoot. Sorry. Even true legends like bill Jordan worked out with a .22 to keep his gunfighting shots on target on two-way shooting ranges along the Rio Grande.

Get a good .22 in whatever style you choose. Revolver, semi-auto pistol, bolt, semi , or lever rifle. Come back to it frequently, so you can focus on technique, and make your shots.
 
Things to do before taking PAL/RPAL course:

Sleep the night before
Go to the bathroom
Bring food

As far as a first gun, you not a man unless its a .50s&w

(joke)
 
In B.C. they won't allow you to handle restricted firearms (handguns specifically) without providing a RPAL. This is true at lever; italian ; blue line ; and reliable to my test knowledge (believe me I tried). Start with an SKS; it can do everything a .22 can; is insanely cheap; and is the destroyer of bambi
my 2 cents.
 
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