thinking about a first muzzleloader
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Have you looked at the Savage 10MLII with its ability to use smokeless powder? I have one and am a big fan of them. Its very accurate, reliable, consistent, and doesn't need any cleaning after a shot, nor does the powder corrode the bore if its not cleaned. Great for being able to fire off a shot at the end of the day and simply put it back in the case for hunting the next day.
I'm more of a purist when it comes to muzzleloaders. I use a Lyman Trade Rifle. Best balanced and weighted muzzleloader (and overall gun) in my opinion. It's pretty accurate from 100 yards with iron sights. I usually get about 2"-3" groups at 75 yards standing with no rest without even trying. Definitely good enough for the deer that I hunt.
tactical870
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I love my old BP stuff but the Savage ML-II is the only way to go as far as I'm concerned... Mine drives tacks out to over 200 yards. (unless of course you've got way to much money and can afford a Bad Bull)....
hay guys how goes it thinking about a muzzle loader. some of the options are traditions tc or thinking about a remington genesis. does anyone have any experience with the remington.
Since you are in BC, presumably your reason would be for shooting at rendezvous and similar. That essentially excludes inlines. Also there is no special season for muzzle loaders here so again, there is no particular advantage to an inline other than extended range while sacrificing any aspect of traditional hunting equipment.
What I would avoid is spanish made guns with drums that screw into the side of the barrel. TC products are a safe bet in terms of quality materials and US made. I would also suggest checking with other muzzle loader shooters at your local fish and game club; they will probably offer you a few shots with their particular choices.
cheers mooncoon
Suka
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Do yourself a favor and buy one of Sam Fadala's books. Most everything you ever wanted to know about muzzleloaders for dummies(like me).
You really just have to decide if you want a muzzleloader, or a rifle disguised as a muzzleloader.
If you want a muzzleloader, now you need to decide what rate of twist(from 66 to about 15?), depending what you want it to shoot.
I just went all through this over the last few months, and in the end purchased a really nice percussion 1 in 48(sort of a compromise between roundball and mini ball) from a fellow cgn member(thanks again, jessejames). The price allowed me to try it out and get my feet wet with this type of gun.
I would have really liked to have found a 1 in 66 Lyman great plains, but you just simply don't see them for sale used. That told me something.
You really just have to decide if you want a muzzleloader, or a rifle disguised as a muzzleloader.
If you want a muzzleloader, now you need to decide what rate of twist(from 66 to about 15?), depending what you want it to shoot.
I just went all through this over the last few months, and in the end purchased a really nice percussion 1 in 48(sort of a compromise between roundball and mini ball) from a fellow cgn member(thanks again, jessejames). The price allowed me to try it out and get my feet wet with this type of gun.
I would have really liked to have found a 1 in 66 Lyman great plains, but you just simply don't see them for sale used. That told me something.
tactical870
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- Buckhorn, Ontario
I was assuming the OP was talking about hunting. Smokeless is a real advantage if you are looking for a hunting gun. If you want to shoot for fun most BP stuff out there today is fairly decent. I started with a Safari Arms Hawken rifle and wish I'd never sold it.
Suka
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Believe me Tactical, I meant no disrespect to your opinion, or the rifle suggestion. I have no problem with anyone who hunts ethically no matter what their weapon of choice. I'm just happy to see you out.
Just my bias showing up; I personally was looking for the patch n' ball type.
Kinda funny when I think about it, I started out with a fast'n'flat calibre, went faster'n'flatter, hunted like that for decades. In my 20's/30's, if I could see it, I could kill it, and that's not an exaggeration. Last few yr's I've hunted with iron sights, and older slower calibres, now I have a shiny new(to me) bp rifle as well. Maybe it's just age and as my eyes go I need to get closer, eh? Come to think of it, my packs gotten lighter as well, and instead of a pack I have a cart. Another 10 yrs I may be down to a pointy stick or a net, ha!
Just my bias showing up; I personally was looking for the patch n' ball type.
Kinda funny when I think about it, I started out with a fast'n'flat calibre, went faster'n'flatter, hunted like that for decades. In my 20's/30's, if I could see it, I could kill it, and that's not an exaggeration. Last few yr's I've hunted with iron sights, and older slower calibres, now I have a shiny new(to me) bp rifle as well. Maybe it's just age and as my eyes go I need to get closer, eh? Come to think of it, my packs gotten lighter as well, and instead of a pack I have a cart. Another 10 yrs I may be down to a pointy stick or a net, ha!
tactical870
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- Buckhorn, Ontario
I'm not even to 30 yet and my BP collection is growing pretty quick. I sighted in a Savage 210F last night, fired 3 shots and punched 2 holes, Then pulled out my BP 43 mauser and blew a little smoke around.... BP is addictive....
