thinking about getting into hunting, educate me
- Thread starter darko
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The Baikal MP-153 is a really good deal for a semi-auto shotgun IMO. I have one and although I don't hunt waterfowl I use it for pheasant and it's a comfortable shotgun to use. It comes with 4 chokes and can handle 2 3/4" to 3 1/2" shells.
Turkeyslayer 1300
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Russell, Ontario
All around best gun for Waterfowl using steel shot would probably be a gun with a Modified Choke and a 3" chamber, learn to call reasonably well and keep your shots under 45 yards and you'll do well.
If you've never hunted before, make sure you're okay with cleaning what you're going to be killing. I know if sounds sarcastic, but I've seen a lot of folks who were completely turned off by the process. Guess they thought that the ducks would be self-cleaning, like their ovens! 
A friend is going to show me how to clean them properly. He also said he found some guy locally who cleans birds in a tumbler or some kinda machine for $5 a pop... anyone know what that's all about? I didn't get details, it was second hand information.
You have a hunting licence? If not, you have to do the Hunter's Safety course, pay the Outdoors Card tax and buy an Ontario Small Game licence, a Migratory Bird Permit(at a Post Office) and a Wildlife Habitat Conservation Stamp for ducks and geese. Migratory bird seasons are set by the Federal government. Go here for the season dates.
http://www.cws-scf.ec.gc.ca/publications/reg/index.cfm?prov=ont&lang=e
A 20" barrel will be a bit short for geese. Ok, but marginal, for ducks if they're close enough. A lot depends on the choke your shotgun has. Full is best for ducks and geese.
http://www.cws-scf.ec.gc.ca/publications/reg/index.cfm?prov=ont&lang=e
A 20" barrel will be a bit short for geese. Ok, but marginal, for ducks if they're close enough. A lot depends on the choke your shotgun has. Full is best for ducks and geese.
- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
A 20 gauge will work, but a 12 will be better, particularly for geese.
If you buy the 20, figure that you will eventually want a 12 anyway.
If you buy the 20, figure that you will eventually want a 12 anyway.
Gun
I'd go genaric as possible - 870 Express 12GA 28" bbl. Good for most game and there are PLENTY of assessories/bbls available for it. I have an old Wingmaster love it.
I'd go genaric as possible - 870 Express 12GA 28" bbl. Good for most game and there are PLENTY of assessories/bbls available for it. I have an old Wingmaster love it.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=294208
Gosh Amphibious, you seem to be singing a different tune. The original post asked if 20 inches would be adequate. On the other thread you argued that barrel length does not make a difference to pattern. According to your own vast experience, a 20 inch barrel would certainly be adequate.
I'm fairly new to waterfowling too, so I can give you my limited perspective on learning how.
You'll get lots of advice on guns, so I won't say anything about that.
Then you have to find birds. That can be the hardest part.
You have to do research on what public land is open, or to hunt on private land, unless daddy owns a farm, you can pay to join a club that leases land or go door to door asking for permission.
And also, what is your experience with hitting flying objects with a shotgun?
I don't know what your season length is like where you live, but it doesn't hurt to shoot some skeet in the off-season to get used to your gun and learning to wingshoot.
You'll get lots of advice on guns, so I won't say anything about that.
Then you have to find birds. That can be the hardest part.
You have to do research on what public land is open, or to hunt on private land, unless daddy owns a farm, you can pay to join a club that leases land or go door to door asking for permission.
And also, what is your experience with hitting flying objects with a shotgun?
I don't know what your season length is like where you live, but it doesn't hurt to shoot some skeet in the off-season to get used to your gun and learning to wingshoot.
and here you go being an asshat again, putting words in my mouth, and generally being a douchbag
how's the ability to shoot accuratly with a 20" barrel vs a 26+ ? have you ever even heard of a sight radius?
oh thats right, the realm of practicaly doesn;t apply to your special brand of "logic"
we all see so many proffessional trap shooters using barrels under 26" don;t we?
there is a lot more to consistant wing shooting accuracy then just pattern.
and a wonderfull afterthough: This message is hidden because Covey Ridge is on your ignore list.
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Amphibious:
asshat? douchbag? proffessional trap shooter?
It really is difficult to argue with someone like yourself who just does not have a handle on what he is arguing about. BTW, I doubt if you have ever seen a proffessional trap shooter. Most trapshooters in Canada and the USA are amateurs, as in ATA Amateur Trapshooting Association.
Amphibious, I was just poking a little fun at your change of shorts between this thread and the last one. Do not take yourself or me too seriously. No one else does.
asshat? douchbag?
proffessional trap shooter? It really is difficult to argue with someone like yourself who just does not have a handle on what he is arguing about. BTW, I doubt if you have ever seen a proffessional trap shooter. Most trapshooters in Canada and the USA are amateurs, as in ATA Amateur Trapshooting Association.
Amphibious, I was just poking a little fun at your change of shorts between this thread and the last one. Do not take yourself or me too seriously. No one else does.
Turkeyslayer 1300
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Russell, Ontario
The best way to find a spot to hunt is good land owner relations. Most people don't mind if you ask politely and don't cause any trouble or make a mess. Never saw a point to joining a club as you are babied quite a bit IMO it's better to do the work yourself and enjoy success that much more.
Best bet is to find some open water.
Everything but the Grand river is frozen solid right now, and we dont have duck hunting where I am, like they have out west on the grain fields.
Rem 870 Wingmaster is a great gun to start with, but you'll eventually settle on a Beretta or Benelli eventually, so I say buy it now.
Everything but the Grand river is frozen solid right now, and we dont have duck hunting where I am, like they have out west on the grain fields.
Rem 870 Wingmaster is a great gun to start with, but you'll eventually settle on a Beretta or Benelli eventually, so I say buy it now.
Rem 870 Wingmaster is a great gun to start with, but you'll eventually settle on a Beretta or Benelli eventually, so I say buy it now.
sad but true
of course every time I think of upgrading, I look at the sorry state of my 870 or 1100 after a hunting trip and wonder if I want to get a "nice" gun that dirty and wet
sad but true
of course every time I think of upgrading, I look at the sorry state of my 870 or 1100 after a hunting trip and wonder if I want to get a "nice" gun that dirty and wet
The very sad state of my old 870 after 20 years of filling game tags and limits, has left the old work horse still not lookin too bad, but I needed a change and the Benelli suits all my needs in one gun.
No regrets in my choice, shoots great on waterfowl, upland game, down the line, to scoped slugs for big game.
Very accurate in every application.
