Thinking about my first bolt gun

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Ok, so I'm thinking about my first bolt gun. What I'm picturing is something in .308, short barrel around 14-16" heavy profile, lightweight stock or chassis and interchangable mags. I would really prefer something that has 10 round mags for .308, or after market mags available in that capacity.

I like the idea of a Rem 700 action as they are ubiquitous, parts are easy to find and fairly inexpensive. I'm not set on that action for certain though.

Does anyone know of a seller in Canada, or a US manufacturer that sells an already complete rifle of this style?

I'm looking for a 300-500 yard gun, not a mile or more.

I expect to use it mostly for target practice, with the option of hunting deer with it. It will not be a safe queen, and I'll worry about glass for it later as it will be a challenge to save up the money for the gun first. Budget is an issue, cheaper is better so long as quality is decent.
 
That is the basis of what I'm thinking, but what I'm looking for is essentially a short barrel version of that using a heavy profile 14-16" barrel. I'm also thinking maybe a lighter stock or chassis than the standard Rem 700 if possible. I don't need too much in the way of adjustable, but it would be ideal if it was a folding or collapsing stock.

I know I could just buy all the parts and build it myself, but what I was hoping for is that someone is simply selling this style of bolt gun.
 
You will not find a stock 308 rem action rifle with what you are looking for in a non restricted bolt action at an economy price, sorry....
Maybe have a look at savage and rem and see the options for yourself, or go look at some sponsor sites.

I'm out can't help, sorry.
 
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Kryogen said:
Then get an ar10 i guess

What do you need a 14 inch foldable stock 308 for?

You will not find a stock 308 rem action rifle with what you are looking for in a non restricted bolt action at an economy price, sorry....

Maybe have a look at savage and rem and see the options for yourself, or go look at some sponsor sites.

I want a 50bmg that costs 500$ and that costs 10 cents a round and has no recoil. Any clue where i could find such a rifle in canada? I prefer a folding stock.... And a 12 inch barrel.
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When you find that rifle you want, get two...I'll give you $600 for the second one.

Really, I am an AR guy at heart. I enjoy handguns and semi's all day long. I do figure every collection should have a bolt gun though, and its time I got a bolt gun. I prefer shorter barrels, easier to maneuver both in a vehicle and in the woods if hunting. If I were to hunt, it would be in fairly dense woods with shots up to about 150 yards, so I don't need the muzzle velocity of a 20" or longer barrel, and the extra length just makes walking in the woods more miserable.

I do require that the gun be non-restricted, and I already have a non-restricted semi...XCR-L in .223.

I don't need the gun to be all things to all people, I just want a shorter barrel and lighter stock. I know it won't be cheap, but I figured if someone makes and sells these options built it, it might be cheaper than buying a stock rifle and individual parts to modify it since I'd have to buy a barrel etc.

As for your $500 .50 cal, no reason you couldn't build a single shot for close to that price I would imagine. The 10 cent ammo isn't likely to happen though.
 
Ok, I think maybe I found my starting point. http://www.irunguns.com/catalog_detail.php?product_id=97826 16.5" barrel on a Rem 700. Bonus for threaded barrel.

Now just to save up the money for that as a starting point, then I can choose a stock or chassis and get it made into a detachable mag gun. I know there are plenty of instructions on google for that, so I won't ask how to convert it to detachable mag.

Anyone know a source in Canada for 10 round mags for a Rem 700?
 
Well you could get a .50 barrel for $500 but building a complete rifle for $500? Neva bin dun befo. What you're asking for is either the SPS 16.5" or custom. Custom won't be cheap. A good folding stock won't come cheap either. As for hunting, a heavy barrel will be a miserable piece to drag around. A 24" is not unwieldy in the bush unless you're a complete clutz, short barrels don't make a big difference. There's a reason why hunting rifles come in lighter barrel contours. Even a 20" hvy bbl'd rifle with an LR scope and a solid stock is a beast to shoot offhand compared to a proper hunting rifle. You're chasing 2 rabbits here, pick one.
 
supernova said:
Well you could get a .50 barrel for $500 but building a complete rifle for $500? Neva bin dun befo. What you're asking for is either the SPS 16.5" or custom. Custom won't be cheap. A good folding stock won't come cheap either. As for hunting, a heavy barrel will be a miserable piece to drag around. A 24" is not unwieldy in the bush unless you're a complete clutz, short barrels don't make a big difference. There's a reason why hunting rifles come in lighter barrel contours. Even a 20" hvy bbl'd rifle with an LR scope and a solid stock is a beast to shoot offhand compared to a proper hunting rifle. You're chasing 2 rabbits here, pick one.
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You are absolutely correct....it will primarily be a range rifle, I don't currently hunt and don't intend to do so. My father does hunt though, and if he asks me to go hunting with him I want a rifle I can take in the bush.

I am a complete clutz.

I think the 16.5" SPS is going to be my starting point, Irunguns doesn't specify if its a heavy barrel, but the heavy barrel was a desire, not a requirement I guess.

I saw a chassis posted on a thread earlier tonight that I'll go look for, price was $399 and it took AR buffer tube and any AR stock, which means the chassis and stock assembly could be built for $500 with decent quality...and collapsible like I wanted.
 
honestly, 14-16" barrel in 308 will be one useless rifle. It will be 1) custom job 2) restricted 3) severely handicapped. Case capacity is too big for such short barrel, muzzle blast will be big, velocities will be mediocre. Nosy and underpowered is what I am trying to say. I suggest re-thinking your "vision" of a rifle. Definitely not a member of "precision rifle" flock.
 
22lr said:
honestly, 14-16" barrel in 308 will be one useless rifle. It will be 1) custom job 2) restricted 3) severely handicapped. Case capacity is too big for such short barrel, muzzle blast will be big, velocities will be mediocre. Nosy and underpowered is what I am trying to say. I suggest re-thinking your "vision" of a rifle. Definitely not a member of "precision rifle" flock.
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Not true, the 16.5" SPS tac is what he is looking at. Any other options are custom. It will not be restricted, even in an AICS folder they're still 27" thus still non-res. Lastly 16" does not give up enough velocity to worry about with shorter distances. 25 fps per inch is still a close MV rule with .308. Shorter than that starts losing more. It will not deliver at long range like a 20"+ but it will not handicap him inside 500 yds or so. He'll get what he wants as a shorter distance precision rifle in a compact package. LR competitor and bush rifle will not be its strong points at all, but for what he wants it will be a great rifle for target work.
 
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