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Maybe its my Scandinavian heritage but latly I am really wanting to get a Swedish Mauser.

Been reading what I can find and the quality these rifles have is just impressive as is the condition they can be found in. Theres also the fact that they accurate.

I jsut haven't decided which route to go. M96/M38 or spend the big bucks and go M41 Sniper

I want a matching rifle a nice minty one to be used for targets. Any suggestions?
 
Which is the better shooter? I'd love to have em all! I was reading that the m96 had the length it did as they decided it was needed in order to b urn all the powder correct velocity etc.

But the m38 was cut down to be more handy.

And as far as m41's I hear ya as I dont have that much into my whole collection so far but it is the ultimate swede
 
Get a hold of Jean from P&S guns and militaria, he just updated the site with a bunch of Swedes.

I've only ever shot an M38, but it's accuracy both benched and offhand were impressive. It's a great little rifle.
 
CanukMauser said:
Which is the better shooter? I'd love to have em all! I was reading that the m96 had the length it did as they decided it was needed in order to b urn all the powder correct velocity etc.

But the m38 was cut down to be more handy.

And as far as m41's I hear ya as I dont have that much into my whole collection so far but it is the ultimate swede
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The barrel length issue is an interesting question. I'm wondering how long a CG63 barrel is, I can imagine that since it's specifically a target rifle and not a combat rifle that it would be the optimum length for the swedish 6.5x55 match cartridge. A search on the internet may answer that question.

I'm guessing the extra front sight to rear sight distance and weight of the m96 would help in the accuracy department. Does anyone know if the throat in the m96 is longer than an m38 since the m96 was designed for a round nose bullet?

The bolt is a funny thing too, a model 96/38 was originally a model 96 that was cut down to a carbine length. Weird thing is some bolts are bent but some are not. Guess it depended on the day of the week and whether Olaf or Mats was the gunsmith that day :)
 
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In my readings not all m38's where cut down only the earlier ones, but Husqvarna was contracted to build x amount of rifles from 1941 to 1943 which all had the bent bolts
 
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"but Husqvarna was contracted to build x amount of rifles from 1941 to 1943 which all had the bent bolts"

False:

- Husqvarna made the straight bolt version also, as a new rifle the so called Infantry Short Rifle.

- The more numerous Husqvarna made bent bolt, is referred to as the so called Cavalry Short Rifle.

Probably more collector's terminology than actual Swedish Ordnance descriptions.
 
Speaking of Swedes...I had a good day today!

While I have some M38s that are straight 'stock', I also couldn't resist a bubba'd M38 that I recently came across. It was drilled and tapped, and wore a really lousy cheap wood after market stock...the price was right, so I took it. The bore was toast, and it shot patterns rather than groups....

Also, I bought a new (in the white) issue M-38 barrel off someone from the board, and had Corlanes screw it on for me. I took it out today for the first time, and stuck on the only scope I had rolling around loose in the cabinet; a Bushnell something-or-other 4x with milk bottle optics and a crosshair as thick as my thumb.

First group, with WW Super X factory loads went .91 moa. Second group, with PMC cheap stuff from Crappy Tire went .66 moa.

I guess it deserves a good scope, and a decent stock...and I'm wondering what it will do when it gets broke in, and with some well developed hand loads!

I find that with the 'as issued' M38s, 1.25 - 1.5 moa groups are quite easy with the original barleycorn sights and factory ammo....I have dies, but haven't started loading for them yet. Has anyone tried the 139 gr. Lapua Scenars?
 
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I saw that but was in the understandign that the m38 was supposed to have a bent bolt
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It did (the Husqvarna), but there are conversion m96/38's that didn't.......... ;)

I've got an awful Swede weakness (click here)http://imageevent.com/badgerdog/swedishservicerifles. You can compare the indvidual models and markings amongst these different photo montages.

They are beautiful shooters and I've had the m41/b sniper rifle out to 600 meters knocking down 12" steel plates.

I rank them right next to my Swiss girls for being accurate fun milsurp shooters.

Regards,
Badger
 
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On the topic of scopes are the M41's worth the coin? I know Marstar has one
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I'd avoid the particular one Marstar is selling at that price..... ;)

I've had a decent look at it and will fill you in off-line if you're interested....

Finding an original "all matching" m41/b, m41 with m/42 scope, or m41 with m/44 scope, that's not been altered creatively by importers is a real challenge. You have to look for one that has a provenance of being in a private collection for at least 5-7 years, or more (just my opinion).

You can find them if you look hard in the U.S., then use Questar to import it for you.

Regards,
Badger
 
I was wrong, my friend who actually sold quite a few of the rifles pictured in the book to the author of Crown Jewels confirmed my mistake.

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SAMCO is quite simply wrong. . . the straight-bolt rifles are 96/38's and the bent bolt are the only true Model 38's. There was no official "infantry" or "cavalry" distinction between the two.
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- I would avoid the M41 sold by Samco in the USA, my friend has been to the warehouse in Miami in person. What they have left are rifles they are patching together from broken rifles they have left over. All the nice matching pieces are now gone.
 
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Once you get a little Blond Swede, your other rifles start to get jealous. :D
I'm very impressed with how mine shoots. :)
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Calum said:
Once you get a little Blond Swede, your other rifles start to get jealous. :D
I'm very impressed with how mine shoots. :)
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wow calum nice rifle;)

I am jealous, my swede was once in a bubba concentration camp :mad: I left the weaver mounts on it to hide the holes :confused:

shoots surprisingly well for a so-so bore and an oval crown :redface:

my only bolt action of decent caliber so I think I like it the best out of all my rifles :rolleyes:
 
Ironically she sat in a local hunting/fishing store rack for almost 10 months.

If I had slept in that day, and missed going to the store another person was looking to buy it, and had plans to "sportsterize it" :eek: :runaway:

When I went to pick her up he even showed up to offer me an extra $50 to sell it to him so he could carry out his plans... What an idiot. :mad:

Keep an eye on our EE section CanukMauser...I have seen them from time to time.
 
Hmmm. Someone may jump on me for this. but the straight bolt 38 is really a 96/38 (shortened), while the bent bolt one is a purpose made short rifle..

At least that's what the "Crown Jewels" has to say about it.
 
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