greywolf67nt
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You asked for suggestions and I gave you one. If you don't like it move on to the next.
There is never a need to call names unless you are an a s s hole!
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Thinking bout handgunning 6k budget
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You asked for suggestions and I gave you one. If you don't like it move on to the next.
There is never a need to call names unless you are an a s s hole!
Personally, I would say that instead of 3 handguns, you should start with only 1 of them, in 9mm, and get a .22lr conversion for it. Having the 22lr option lets you work harder on sight picture, trigger pull, grip and stance without having to think about recoil and without as much fatigue from managing recoil. I'm talking about shooting hundreds of rounds a day, several days a week, to work on those things and fine tune them.
Then, get yourself a good 9mm reloading setup, single stage or turret press, not looking to bulk load, looking to precision hand load, then you can develop a custom load for your handguns, once you get to the point where you can out-shoot bulk ammo precision
Personally, I would start with something beefy, like a nice Browning High Power (brand new with adjustable sights, not surplus or anything) Throw some custom grips, a custom target barrel and a set of wolf match springs in there.
You could also go for a Kimber or Wilson 9mm if you want, but if you want to actually develop some skill, you want something you can shoot shoot shoot and then shoot again, and the BHP will stand up to that kind of round count.
A true custom fine tuned pistol is NOT something you use to learn how to shoot with, it's what you get when you have enough skill to out-shoot a good solid workhorse pistol like a BHP.
Forget a glock, not great to learn on and won't stand up to the 1000s of rounds that you'll have to shoot to develop some serious skill.
Then, once you can out-shoot the pistol, get something higher end like a Wilson or Kimber or Baer.
Think of it like this, would you teach a 16 year old to drive in a manual shift ferrari? Won't be long before you'd need a new ferrari, and maybe a new 16 year old too... but, it's an awesome car to learn to drive well once you are already an expert and you've worn out a few cheaper cars doing the 500,000 km that it took to become an expert.
Then, get yourself a good 9mm reloading setup, single stage or turret press, not looking to bulk load, looking to precision hand load, then you can develop a custom load for your handguns, once you get to the point where you can out-shoot bulk ammo precision
Personally, I would start with something beefy, like a nice Browning High Power (brand new with adjustable sights, not surplus or anything) Throw some custom grips, a custom target barrel and a set of wolf match springs in there.
You could also go for a Kimber or Wilson 9mm if you want, but if you want to actually develop some skill, you want something you can shoot shoot shoot and then shoot again, and the BHP will stand up to that kind of round count.
A true custom fine tuned pistol is NOT something you use to learn how to shoot with, it's what you get when you have enough skill to out-shoot a good solid workhorse pistol like a BHP.
Forget a glock, not great to learn on and won't stand up to the 1000s of rounds that you'll have to shoot to develop some serious skill.
Then, once you can out-shoot the pistol, get something higher end like a Wilson or Kimber or Baer.
Think of it like this, would you teach a 16 year old to drive in a manual shift ferrari? Won't be long before you'd need a new ferrari, and maybe a new 16 year old too... but, it's an awesome car to learn to drive well once you are already an expert and you've worn out a few cheaper cars doing the 500,000 km that it took to become an expert.
Hopefully you aren't one of those "nose in the air" types who thinks that if you spend enough money on a firearm, it will make up for the fact that you have zero skill and can't hit the side of a barn with it.
If you are "taking up" handgun, then odds are that there are a lot of folks on here who can outshoot you easily, even if they are shooting a $200 Norinco and you are shooting a $5000 custom Baer.
Are you looking for something to put in a glass case on the mantel or something to take to the range and put 1000s of rounds through it until you can actually get decent scores?
I saw a guy at the range a few months back, shooting a beautiful custom .45 and trying to show off for 2 girls watching him. He obviously had spent much more $ on the pistol than he had spent on ammo to date.. He had a 25 yd target set up at 10 yds and he still wasn't even putting any holes in the paper at all, probably would have helped if he didn't close his eyes and flinch with every shot.
I am a 1911 fan, so I'll suggest a Remington R1 Enhanced in both 45ACP and 9mm Parabellum. I have the 45 and love it, I hope to get the 9mm. I'm 60 and can see the sights just fine. For a third choice I'll suggest a 22 rimfire that is a clone of the 1911. There are quite a few, mine is a Walther, of Germany, made 22-1911 that is marketed here in the USA under the Colt banner. All three of these guns go for under $1000US here in the States, I have no idea what they'd run you in Canada, so you should have some money left over for ammo, carrying cases, and other accessories.
Another 9mm I will hardily suggest is the Browning Hi-Power. I do own one of these fine guns, but they are pricey. But the best does cost.
Another 9mm I will hardily suggest is the Browning Hi-Power. I do own one of these fine guns, but they are pricey. But the best does cost.
Simply put there's simply no money in that sort of deal. The rank and file would not appreciate what they are holding and there's simply not enough of us others with the itch to scratch to justify the expense of aquiring and pimping out a posse of that caliber. The only chance of arranging such a love fest would be to work with local ranges and offer those with the supreme level guns a carrot to allow the unwashed a chance to see what they are missing.
Canmic,
Why on earth shouldn't you learn how to shoot with the best gun you can get your hands on? It won't make you any worse.
You can't shoot a Wilson 1911 in 9mm a lot? Do tell me more. How is it less durable than a BHP?
A Glock won't stand up to range use like a BHP? Learn something new every day; care to elaborate?
Why do you have to choose between something durable that shoots well or something "for the mantle"? At this price point you can find pistols that look great, shoot great, and last tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of rounds. Let me do some conservative math: Gun = $3000. 1000rds of 9mm = $200. Gun only lasts 50,000rds. $10,000 of ammo makes the gun cost trivial. The numbers become even more lopsided as caliber increases.
OP, I would ignore those like canmic. If you've got the money and enjoy guns buy the best you can afford. The only thing he said that isn't BS and makes any sense is that a BHP is a nice gun. Ergonomically one of my favourites, but needs a bit of work to perform with others listed in the thread, especially the trigger.
Why on earth shouldn't you learn how to shoot with the best gun you can get your hands on? It won't make you any worse.
You can't shoot a Wilson 1911 in 9mm a lot? Do tell me more. How is it less durable than a BHP?
A Glock won't stand up to range use like a BHP? Learn something new every day; care to elaborate?
Why do you have to choose between something durable that shoots well or something "for the mantle"? At this price point you can find pistols that look great, shoot great, and last tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of rounds. Let me do some conservative math: Gun = $3000. 1000rds of 9mm = $200. Gun only lasts 50,000rds. $10,000 of ammo makes the gun cost trivial. The numbers become even more lopsided as caliber increases.
OP, I would ignore those like canmic. If you've got the money and enjoy guns buy the best you can afford. The only thing he said that isn't BS and makes any sense is that a BHP is a nice gun. Ergonomically one of my favourites, but needs a bit of work to perform with others listed in the thread, especially the trigger.
Personally I would decide on the caliber you are most interested in (cheapest 9mm?) and get a shooter. I am a glock guy.. some arent. Thats ok. But I would go CZ shadow 2 out of the gate.
And then I would buy a really nice 1911 (take your pick depending on who you talk to) and a really nice revolver? Who knows. Its your money. Im picky with firearms.
I am partial to certain brands, actions, and calibers. What you are asking is getting peoples personal picks.. as you can read.
The Sig Legion looks AMAZING but I have never shot one.
So my picks:
9mm - glock 17, CZ shadow 2, Sig Legion
45 - pick a 1911 and customize it to your liking
Revolver - 357? 44? who knows. They are awesome.
I like your style OP. Most of us arent in the same boat (without liquidation of gun lockers)
Let us know what you pick.
And then I would buy a really nice 1911 (take your pick depending on who you talk to) and a really nice revolver? Who knows. Its your money. Im picky with firearms.
I am partial to certain brands, actions, and calibers. What you are asking is getting peoples personal picks.. as you can read.
The Sig Legion looks AMAZING but I have never shot one.
So my picks:
9mm - glock 17, CZ shadow 2, Sig Legion
45 - pick a 1911 and customize it to your liking
Revolver - 357? 44? who knows. They are awesome.
I like your style OP. Most of us arent in the same boat (without liquidation of gun lockers)
Let us know what you pick.
Yes I was kind of countering the suggestion range rentals and visit or the average gun store could reasonably provide someone the opportunity to try higher end guns. Just my experience though. I'm sure there are exceptions.
Absolutely right. Buy the best you can afford and then let your abilities come up to match the gun. Regardless of shooting discipline once you start shooting better guns you'll understand why they cost what they do.
007shaun007
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lots of great info here, thanks.....
Well you are the one that asked for advice.not going to learn much with that attitude. But oh you have six k so you can be rude
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greywolf67nt
CGN frequent flyer
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Or just no sense of humour
easyrider604
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I thought the above reply was unnecessary, arrogant and exrtemely rude. For starters.
Ravenmanwoody52
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Norinco NP22 (Sig 226).......$340
Norinco NP29 (9mm 1911)...$340
Norinco NZ75 (CZ75 ).........$340
Total................................$1020 plus tax
Which leaves you just under $5000 for ammo
Why suggest cheap Pos's when he clearly has the budget for high end pistols? Seem's like the trolls just lie in wait around here.
It was the perfect reply to a recommendation of cheapass Chinese pistols when the OP set a budget allowing him to buy handguns of much higher quality.
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- West Quebec
Hmmm, budget aside, there really isn't much to go on. Competition shooting is out, so basically you are looking for a handgun that is accurate and fun to shoot. For the 1911 design, I would opt for a STI 2011, however, they can be pretty pricey, and can easily eat up over half your budget. The next I would definitely go for the CZ 75 Shadowline (either regular or SP-01), as it is extremely accurate and pleasant to shoot, as well as accomodate an almost natural point of aim for most shooters. The third, I am a little lost, as most people getting into handguns would like a revolver as well. If this is the case, I would definitely go for an 'L' framed S&W in 357 magnum as this can be shot very economically using 38 special rounds. Not too sure though if you want to go for a revolver.
You would want to try to stay away from heavy calibre firearms such as desert eagles as they really aren't a pleasure to shoot, but they do take up a check mark on ones 'MAN CARD'. Chances are though that it will rarely leave the safe, and its main purpose will be to collect dust.
Good luck with your choices!
You would want to try to stay away from heavy calibre firearms such as desert eagles as they really aren't a pleasure to shoot, but they do take up a check mark on ones 'MAN CARD'. Chances are though that it will rarely leave the safe, and its main purpose will be to collect dust.
Good luck with your choices!
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