Thinking of getting this rifle....
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Length of pull is the distance between the end of the stock to the grip. There's no "better" LOP, it's basically what's the most comfortable length for your body size. Quick trick is to grab a rifle, bend your elbow at 90 degrees and grab the grip, putting the stock on the crook of the elbow. If your arm can be straight and your wrist isn't crooked, it usually means it's a good LOP for you.
There are lots of accurate rifles that don't cost 3 grand US. Look into a Savage.
The Length of Pull is part of what makes a rifle fit you. A quick way of measuring the LOP you need is to put a yard stick in your bent elbow and grasp it like you would a rifle. Where your trigger finger comes to is very close to what LOP is good for you. A rifle that is too short can be adjusted by installing a recoil pad. Too long requires the stock to be changed or the butt cut to fit.
The Length of Pull is part of what makes a rifle fit you. A quick way of measuring the LOP you need is to put a yard stick in your bent elbow and grasp it like you would a rifle. Where your trigger finger comes to is very close to what LOP is good for you. A rifle that is too short can be adjusted by installing a recoil pad. Too long requires the stock to be changed or the butt cut to fit.
Length of pull is a measure, in a straight line, from the rear of the butt to the front of the middle of the trigger, where your trigger finger touches.
I'm 6' and like a 13 3/4" LOP. That's pretty average.
The old rule of thumb is to basically subtract 1/8" in LOP for every inch you are shorter than me, or add 1/8" for every inch taller. E.G. If you are 5' 8", you will "probably" like a LOP of around 13 1/4". If you are 6' 4", maybe something like 14 1/4".
Of course, summer and winter affect it as well. If you are wearing a t-shirt, a longer length of pull ir required as compared to wearing a heavy parka.
Clear as mud?
I'm 6' and like a 13 3/4" LOP. That's pretty average.
The old rule of thumb is to basically subtract 1/8" in LOP for every inch you are shorter than me, or add 1/8" for every inch taller. E.G. If you are 5' 8", you will "probably" like a LOP of around 13 1/4". If you are 6' 4", maybe something like 14 1/4".
Of course, summer and winter affect it as well. If you are wearing a t-shirt, a longer length of pull ir required as compared to wearing a heavy parka.
Clear as mud?
I would buy a rifle of less cost,buy your reloading stuff, learn to shoot and learn to look after your rifle.
On the way, join a club, learn about reloading and shooting and then buy your 3000.00 dollar rifle.
I am assuming you are new to shooting because length of pull is a common term.
If you have unlimited funds then get a rifle built by a legitimate gun smith.
If you are not new to shooting disregard this post and my apologies.
A stock savage can shoot a pretty good group for a manufactured rifle.
Probably less than a grand.
On the way, join a club, learn about reloading and shooting and then buy your 3000.00 dollar rifle.
I am assuming you are new to shooting because length of pull is a common term.
If you have unlimited funds then get a rifle built by a legitimate gun smith.
If you are not new to shooting disregard this post and my apologies.
A stock savage can shoot a pretty good group for a manufactured rifle.
Probably less than a grand.
Here are a few more things you might need:
Harris Bipod
http://www.wolverinesupplies.com/default.asp?Pg=8&do=3&mcid=13&scid=32&pid=134
Or, this cheapo:
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/BIPOD103-1.html
(Don't know yet if I can bring it up or not)
Or this one:
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/BIPOD102-1.html
Accushot Monopod
http://www.wolverinesupplies.com/default.asp?Pg=8&do=3&mcid=13&scid=32&pid=93
I hear good things about his cheapo scope but I haven't been able to find it in Canada.
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10248654#ShortReviewTitleBar
I did find a few cheapo scopes here though but I am still undecided as to which one!
That is: dlairgun dot com
Then there is the bolt knob. They have a badger style knob.
bolt knobs by bill dot com
I just found one of these for my remington 700 ltr, should add a few rounds there. I looked into a magazine option but I couldn't find one. This is about all I need anyway.
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/Store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=19711
The Remington 700 LTR is a really nice rifle. Light. Accurate.
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- Location
- Virden, MB
I've seen them before at Wolverine.
3 grand? For what. They promise 1/2 moa accuacy. A savage or a remington with all the bells and whistles would be 1/2 the price and you would probably still get 1/2 moa or so.
3 grand? For what. They promise 1/2 moa accuacy. A savage or a remington with all the bells and whistles would be 1/2 the price and you would probably still get 1/2 moa or so.
I don't think it would be wise to put cheap glass on a $3k rifle. haha.
Why does everyone always think they need bipods, monopods and scopes? Haven't you guys ever heard of Target Rifle with iron sights, shot off your elbows with a jacket and sling? Oh ya, and with either a .308 shooting 155 gr bullets or a .223 shooting 80 grainers.
- Location
- Virden, MB
The HS rifles are not build for shooting with iron sights. They are quite lacking in that regards actually.
The monopod is unnecessary. Maybe down the road you may find that's what you like, but most just use their hand for rear support or a bag.
As far as optics. The Bushnell Elite 3200 10x is a great starter scope. Its clear, reliable and has mil-dot reticle so you can learn how they work. Personally I still think saving $1500 on you rifle and buying a Savage 10fcp or a Remington 700p or VTR and putting the savings into good optics would be money better spent.
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- New Scotland
Buy something else to start out. You're apt to find a half-dozen used M700s or Savage LEs on the EE at less than retail with little shooting under the belt. Top 'em off with a Bushnell 3200 10x (the darling of budget-minded 308 shooters). Then you can get some practice in before you dump a ton of money into a rifle.
And if you decide that $3K or thereabouts is what you'll spend for the rifle, buy a good scope. Nightforce, Schmidt-Bender, Leupold and US Optics are all top notch glass and if you're laying out that much hard earned you'd be a complete noobsausage to top it with some POS scope.
And if you decide that $3K or thereabouts is what you'll spend for the rifle, buy a good scope. Nightforce, Schmidt-Bender, Leupold and US Optics are all top notch glass and if you're laying out that much hard earned you'd be a complete noobsausage to top it with some POS scope.
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Scotland
That's what most people want. Doesn't make them right or wrong. Besides, would you argue that it's easier to start a new shooter off with irons? More importantly, could you argue that with a straight face?
Yup, even seen them in pictures once. It just doesn't interest me. I'm never going to Camp Perry and would rather shoot at muskeg tussocks or southern greater sod poodles with my scope sighted 308 (shooting 168s of course).
