This barrel rifling look normal to you?

I just sent this obscenely expensive rifle with a carbon barrel back for a few reasons. This is one of them. Does this look normal? What are those striations? I don't know if this barrel was damaged by someone cleaning it or if this is how it came from the factory but this is really bad, right?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/GzptsBDqrUi1XWSU8

The rifle was sold by the manufacturer but is a 'demo' model. Lucky with full warranty.

Thx
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Those appear to be chatter marks. They may occur throughout the barrel, but that would remain unknown until the bore is examined with a borescope.

Chatter marks tend to occur more frequently with mass produced barrels, and can appear in both button and hammer forged tubes.

Despite being "obscenely expensive" rifle to the owner, since it is later described as being "a long range rifle in the +1000.00 CND price range" it should be noted that it's price isn't a guarantee of a particularly high quality barrel. At the same time, rifle buyers should not expect to find such marks in any rimfire rifle.

Chatter marks don't always affect accuracy negatively, but they never help. They may cause lead build up. Those marks cannot be made to go away by any means that won't affect performance.

Few rifle barrels that aren't custom made are completely flawless or look perfect. But no one should be expected to be satisfied with a bore that appears to be so obviously flawed by unnecessary machine markings.

What make is the barrel in question?
 
It's impossible to tell by a picture if those marks will cause problems. They very well could be completely aesthetic and have no affect on anything. If you have a dental pick, gently drag it over the lines. If you can feel it catch, you might have an issue. If it's smooth, you'll likely be fine and not notice any difference.

Those striations, are the feed rate of the gun drill that drilled that barrel blank. Like as not, it was either dull, or carrying a chip, welded to the corner of it's cutting edge, to make as obvious a pattern as that.

If it shoots like a house on fire, keep it, otherwise, get a new one, or your money back.

Yeah no, definitely not that. The marks are on the lands and the grooves, so whatever caused them happened after the barrel was drilled.
 
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You guys think those circular marks are normal for a button rifled barrel.......LOL

Come on

You are not serious....

Yeah, for production barrels, button chatter is pretty normal, most Savage bores look like that and shoot great...may foul a bit more until it's shot enough to smooth out, but that is the only downside.
Hammer forged is smooth as butter by comparison.
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I don't want to hijack this thread, sorry if you think I do.
Can you guys suggest me a good, affordable borescope? I'd like to be able to inspect my barrels like some pictures here shows.
 
... But no one should be expected to be satisfied with a bore that appears to be so obviously flawed by unnecessary machine markings.

What make is the barrel in question?


Thanks, thats what I wanted to know.

I've just sent it back so I'd rather not say until the other shoe hits the fan.
 
Amazon : Teslong Borescope

The 'good ones' that were about $70 are not avail, haven't been for about a year. The only ones I see are $173 + tx , with a 26" rigid bore rod. You'd need the 0.20", I'd not try the 5.5mm - it might be tight in some .22LR. Gotta be a careful shopper.
 
The 'good ones' that were about $70 are not avail, haven't been for about a year. The only ones I see are $173 + tx , with a 26" rigid bore rod. You'd need the 0.20", I'd not try the 5.5mm - it might be tight in some .22LR. Gotta be a careful shopper.

Amazon.ca currently has available two Teslong borescopes, one at $173, the other $158. To go by the pictures of each, both appear use rigid .2" probes, but a closer look at the descriptions, the less expensive one seems to have a flexible probe, perhaps similar to the inexpensive but good $70 model.
 
I got the one with the 26 inch bore rod - it's fantastic you may see things you wish you didn't though. As for button riffle barrels - you can somewhat notice them after 1500 rounds but its smoothing out
 
That is really bad. I have a couple of button rimfire barrels with the gun drill marks but they are only on the lands, they are ironed out of the grooves. Also the crown looks chewed up.
 
The 'good ones' that were about $70 are not avail, haven't been for about a year. The only ones I see are $173 + tx , with a 26" rigid bore rod. You'd need the 0.20", I'd not try the 5.5mm - it might be tight in some .22LR. Gotta be a careful shopper.

I just ordered the $173.04 one. No tx and free shipping (Prime). 26" x 0.20" rod.
Thanks !
 
I find it extremely hard to believe a carbide sizing button can leave striations like those pictured on both the lands and grooves. The buttons are pushed through hydraulically so chatter that close shouldn’t be possible unless the barrel was really undersized for calibre. Not that it really matters. That barrel shouldn’t have ever made it past QC or installed on a firearm. I’ve owned a pile of button rifled barrels and have never seen anything like that. Pretty sure it doesn’t show up after shooting a bunch of rounds either!!
 
Machining marks from the drilling/reaming process. All barrels will have such marks, the better barrel makers will then lap the blank until they are removed. Manufacturers such as Anschütz and CZ hydraulically lap their barrels, which doesn't guarantee 100% removal of the marks. Custom barrel shops hand lap and inspect, guaranteeing all machine marks to be removed. Companies like Savage and Ruger DGAF and make no effort to remove the marks.

Example of a Savage MKII bore



Example of an Anschütz bore

 
I dunno... I'm neither a firearm maker nor do I play one on TV. But it looks like whatever equipment was used to drill that bore needs to be sharpened - properly - so it cuts on size AND clean.
 
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