This could be an accurate 1000 metres rifle, PICS...

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Since i got my Nemesis, i got open to the world of the 208 Amax (BC .648) and the extraordinary R-17 powder, got stellar results in accuracy with that combo, but was short past 800 metres (20 inch barrel)....
So i had in mind to assembled a rifle specificly for that combo, while in Europe, did order a Browning A-bolt Target 308 for the main reason of it's 28 inch super bull barrel and it's 1 in 10 twist, the 9 ounces single set trigger and the glass beding and adj. cheek rest came as bonus.... Now i did order 2 extras Sightron scopes, couples of good rings set, couples of original Harris bipods... All of that may able me to push that combo just north of 2700 fps out of the 308 and maybe permit me super groups @ 1000 metres, working on ass'y, today, a rainy day, will have pictures of the final products later in the day... Tourlou. JP.
 
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most if not all bullet manufactures have a tech support line, if you know what bullet you want to use, they can tell you what the optimum barrel twist is, they can not tell you what results will be with a specific powder, that fun part is left for the shooter to discover

looking forward to seeing the finished product

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Here the work is done for today, i will call it the 208-17, i went with a Sightron 10X50X60 LRMOA, Warne high steel ring, Weaver base, Harris 9-13 swivel bipod, now for the fun part, the devellopment of a super 208 Amax- R17 loag, did check the chamber for OAL with my Stoney an it look i am gonna be good for 3.00+ of room before the rifling, the beginning is fun... JP.
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For one, i would be satisfied to put 10 rounds of my 208 Amax-R17 load in a dinner paper plate @ 1000 metres ( everything is in metres around here ), first will have to get use to that 9 ounces single set trigger, it is soooo light, dry firing it i dont control it yet... JP.
 
that 9 ounces single set trigger, it is soooo light, dry firing it i dont control it yet... JP.
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Yeah, me too. That light pull sounds really good on a spec sheet, but, if it's a half kilo or less it's not to my liking ... real world.
The ability to part-load the trigger as the sight picture evolves, then tickle her off when all looks good ... is best served with 20+ ounces for this calloused trigger finger.
 
Brutus said:
Of course you could have all of your ducks in a row, and still the wind could make a fool of your efforts at 1000.

Edit: No 20-25 MOA base for tossing those relatively heavy bullets downrange? What gives??
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What wrong with those bases, they are half inch thick... JP.
 
Brutus said:
But are they designed to give a further elevation upwards?
Frugal long range shooters have been know to shim these bases.

I suspect you have not.
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You are right, i am teaching myself to become ( more a wannabe LR shooter) by getting what i think is appropriate for, but while being a good shoot 0-400 metres, since i started with the Nemesis, this is basically a learning process and in a couple of week i will have to deal with my first custom ( North Shores), i am learning a new trick every once in a while, i am taking note of your comment and see if i can make it right, we are making a great use of the chance of having a 100-1000 metres range ( by next year we will have a possibility with are immediate neiborg to have a line 4-5 time a summer to make it to one mile... JP.
 
So how many 308 Winchester calibre long range rifles do you have to buy before this is brought to light?

Curious.......

caramel said:
You are right, i am teaching myself to become ( more a wannabe LR shooter) by getting what i think is appropriate for, but while being a good shoot 0-400 metres, since i started with the Nemesis, this is basically a learning process and in a couple of week i will have to deal with my first custom ( North Shores), i am learning a new trick every once in a while, i am taking note of your comment and see if i can make it right, we are making a great use of the chance of having a 100-1000 metres range ( by next year we will have a possibility with are immediate neiborg to have a line 4-5 time a summer to make it to one mile... JP.
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Brutus said:
So how many 308 Winchester calibre long range rifles do you have to buy before this is brought to light?

Curious.......
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My custom 308 NS will be my 21 st one, and i got # 22 and 23 on order, guess you figured out what my favorite caliber, one day i will take pictures of all of them togheter but for now they are spreaded in 3 houses... JP.
 
My choice of rings is temporary, i have to drop at a big Mtl store and get 3 or 400.00 dollars of small stuff, rings low and medium and others...
When i order i have a tendency to order to high... Bof, it will increase the spare stuff in my magic box... JP.
 
vviking said:
Yeah, me too. That light pull sounds really good on a spec sheet, but, if it's a half kilo or less it's not to my liking ... real world.
The ability to part-load the trigger as the sight picture evolves, then tickle her off when all looks good ... is best served with 20+ ounces for this calloused trigger finger.
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Most true match rifles are fitted with triggers from 2 - 4 ounces.
After using those rifles, a 9 oz trigger will actually feel "stiff", believe it or not.
My Suhl 22 rimfire has a 1 oz trigger, and that is not forgiving if you get any premature pressure on it.
Obviously, on a hunting rifle 2½ - 3 lbs makes a lot more sense.
Regards, Eagleye.
 
Eagleye said:
Most true match rifles are fitted with triggers from 2 - 4 ounces.
After using those rifles, a 9 oz trigger will actually feel "stiff", believe it or not.
My Suhl 22 rimfire has a 1 oz trigger, and that is not forgiving if you get any premature pressure on it.
Obviously, on a hunting rifle 2½ - 3 lbs makes a lot more sense.
Regards, Eagleye.
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Pls. excuse the thread drift OP.
Eagleye, never having used under 1lb or so of pull(which felt so, sooo tender!)as yet, on any LR precision rig, ... my question of you is ...

Once the tripping of the sear is light enough(whatever that #age ends up measuring), to show no movement whatsoever of reticle on target, are we not in that "zone" where trigger is no longer inhibiting the shooter/rigs potential precision?.

A return to battery BR rig on concrete bench ... yeah, I can see the point of minimising any thou or two of potential deflection with a 'will-'o-the-whisp' let-off .... that is quite specialized, and is what it is.

In the field though, belly down in a snowbank, working the mirage, wind, ones heartbeat, and a cold trigger fingered hold for the "best I can do" firing solution, a few extra ounces seems a distinct advantage to hit probability as one adds then subtracts pressure till that "go" moment.

On review ^, I've just answered my own question. ;)
Each to their own.

But ... 1 ounce? ....Me'd be skeer'd to take it outta the case !! LoL!.
 
Eagleye said:
Most true match rifles are fitted with triggers from 2 - 4 ounces.
After using those rifles, a 9 oz trigger will actually feel "stiff", believe it or not.
My Suhl 22 rimfire has a 1 oz trigger, and that is not forgiving if you get any premature pressure on it.
Obviously, on a hunting rifle 2½ - 3 lbs makes a lot more sense.
Regards, Eagleye.
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This one certainly no hunting rifle @ 14 pounds before rings, bases and scopes but this 9 ounces trigger has no travelling to get use to, on my Nemesis the trigger @ 6 ounces is easy to gauge as it have a short travelling and resistance, i am pretty sure i will tammed it , doing a lot of dry firing with it, it already is better, that all part of the fun... JP.
 
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